Okay, I see that as proof Breen actually didn’t survive. And I’m pretty sure Breen died in an explosion.
I think Breen is dead.
When the Citadel Teleportation Reactor or whatever it’s called exploded, Breen would fall. He would fall all the way down through the citadel until his orb (If it still worked) hit the bottom. If the orb didn’t survive that, he would die from #worldspawn. If the orb DID survive that, he would die from #worldspawn on the inner wall of the orb.
And i don’t think they succeeded in sending his brain into the combine overworld. Most players detroy the portal before the sequence finishes.
And you don’t need that big a rift for Breen’s tiny brain. :3
EDIT: For this last part of my post, i don’t even think they were just going to send his brain, i’m pretty sure they’d send the whole guy over.
It depends. The whole sequence might have just been one gigantic trap for Gordon Freeman. And no one ever said that Breen wasn’t working on a backup plan when Gordon started busting the combine teleporter up. It’s not like the sphere he was in FELL, it just lowered, and you also don’t know what type of protection the sphere offers. It can obviously protect him from you shooting the energy orbs at HIM instead of the teleporter, so it might conceivably protect him from the teleporter blowing up too.
Even if it didn’t protect him completely, it could have protected him enough for his dying memories/intelligence/personality to be put into a spare advisor body or something.
I’m not saying he can’t be dead, but lets face it, this is science fiction and he’s a badguy. With badguys, even seeing their corpse disintegrated right in front of you doesn’t negate the possibility that it was a clone or a robot or hologram or that his body exploded but his head was actually an escape pod for his brain that flew away just as the body exploded.
I doubt that the combine give a rats ass about Breen’s survival. Especially if he’s buried in the ruins, why bother looking for him?
Actually, it surprised me that the combine even offered a host body for him to survive, instead of just leaving him to wherever he was. Afterall, he was a puppet, and his usefulness was due to him having the face of dr. Breen, not some alternate host body in a comparatively hostile environment.
^ That’s one of the reasons why I think if he does return he won’t necessarily be on the Combine’s side. They don’t really have a use for him at this point, as they’ve now decided to resort to more brute force instead of persuasion. Also, I believe that the only reason he complied them to begin with was because he thought they’d kill all of humanity if he didn’t. Now that there seems to be a fairly decent chance that the Combine might be fought back, he might well join the resistance.
I’m sure that they would have built the sphere to protect Breen or any user from any accidents or incidents that could cause damage or death to its user.
I think he’s still alive, in one form or another. I don’t think the gman would let him go that easily.
What would the gman have to do with Breen?
Well they obviously knew eachother, judging from the end of HL2, Breen knows about Freeman’s contract, but so do the vorts, I’m not sure then if it was only a restricted group that knew about it. I don’t know.
Even if the Gman wasn’t involved, I still think Breen survived.
Wasn’t it the Gman who wanted Freeman to take out Breen? Why would he have him go through all that trouble and then want Breen to live?
Ugh,There is no way Breen survived.The orb that Breen was in is the HOST BODY.Freeman destroyed the orb and Breen fell down saying in an echo “You need me”
Breen is roting dead on the Citadel ground.
A “Host Body” isn’t a protective sphere. If that were the case than Breen wouldn’t have been so opposed to it. I also think you confused falling with descending at a rate of an average elevator.
Did G-man ever clearly tell you to do anything? Because he never said shit to me. Maybe he wanted the citadel & the teleport taken out, and Breen was just in the way.
You disappoint me. Do people have to always explain everything to you? It’s implied. The Gman didn’t explain his goals. He never even mentioned the Combine in his opening conversation. Maybe he wanted Freeman to get him a new briefcase, because he never explained anything.
And I was unaware a guy named Dias is the protagonist of HL. I was sure a guy named Freeman was the MC. I must go back and check.
I think valve might’ve been thinking he’d come back or something but since the voice actor died I think he’s done.
I wouldn’t be so sure about bringing him back even when his voice actor was alive. I mean, they could potentially bring back or add new characters without a worry in the world about voice acting. For example, whatever happened to Dr. Smithers? I’d like to see him in a future installment.
I think people are right in saying the advisers weren’t kept in the pods we saw them in, like their name… they’re ‘escape’ pods… only used for emergency.
Now don’t quote me on this, but I think maybe the theme Valve is going for with the Combine, or at least the advisers if they’re indeed the master race of the Combine, is that they’ve gotten to a point in their ‘technical evolution’ that they’re completely dependent on it. In fact I believe they say that in the book. Everything even down to basic life functions are mechanically assisted. I believe that the advisers, under normal conditions like before Gorden’s arrival, they lived completely artificial state… take ‘brains connected to giant computers generating artificial reality simulations and such’ as an example of what I mean.
Now of course this wouldn’t be including every single one of them, as we still see advisers talking to Breen and such… but maybe the average adviser ‘citizen’ if they even have anything equating that anymore.
You know, it could be that the advisers that were launched from the Citadel were very young, maybe freshly hatched clone bodies that the combine on earth were ‘re-born’ into when leaving their artificial states of existence? I say this because the advisers in Ep1 looked very pale, small, and slightly gelatinous… at least to me, almost as if they were freshly born infant advisers or something. This reborn aspect could also explain why those advisers started out so weak and having to ‘re-learn’ how to use their true powers and such…
Just my ideas…
I don’t really see why people are assuming that Breen’s “host body” is an advisor. It could be anything including a creature you haven’t seen yet in the games.[COLOR=‘Black’]Breen is Mr. Friendly?
To me, advisors are simply middlemen between the Combine Overworld and their pawns on Earth (like Breen). They are there to ‘advise’ Combine-friendly allies and deliver messages to “Our Benefactors”. I don’t see why Breen would need an advisor host body…
As to the G-Man, from what I’ve seen, he’s on his own side (neither Earth’s nor Combine’s). I believe that he’s partial to Earth, however, but his powers, however vast, are limited in scope in his ability to interact with his environment. During the G-Man’s “heart-to-heart”, he mentions the “opposition” and that “quelling” them is sometimes out of the question and Breen’s face briefly appears on the screen behind the G-Man, suggesting to me that the G-Man and Breen were enemies.
I think Breen is dead, Gordon having killed him before he could get a host body.
But, this is all supposition.
I always thought that the advisors were representatives of whatever the ‘combine’ were. Obviously, the combine is a large empire, and whatever is in charge can’t keep an eye on every planet that it they have conquered. Naturally, they would have to send some representatives to keep their ‘acquisitions’ in check. What better creature to send than one which is completely dependent on technology that carries out basic life functions, leaving the critter’s brain to concentrate on other tasks? They’d be mindlessly devoted and loyal to the rest of the combine cause, they seem without personality to me, just emotionless clones. And if they begin to disobey orders, just shut off their particular personal locomotion/nutrition device. A great punishment for a creature dependent on technology. Cost effective and easily replaceable.
And you know what the best part is? You’re all right about the Advisors being representatives for the Combine and not the leaders, but people still seem to think otherwise, even when Valve itself has stated the truth. I even gave an exact source to where it says the Advisors are not the leaders, but people keep arguing about it. I don’t get it. If Valve itself says something’s true, it doesn’t need to be ignored. Especially not something like that. Not to mention…THEY’RE CALLED ADVISORS. If they were the leaders, others would refer to them as such and they’d be given more importance and not left to die in a barn. This would be like saying a mafia captain is the head of the mob.
The combine have always been hinted by valve as being “the true face of the combine.” in the official strategy guide, Raising the Bar, and I’m pretty sure the Ep1 commentary touched on this too. They represent a race (that were once perhaps not unlike humans) that reached a sort of technological/biological singularity over eons, to the point they became grub-like, psyhconautic superbeings, that can manipulate reality with pure intent. They’re an extremely advanced race (if dependent upon their own technology) that functions beyond the scope of human comprehension, which allowed them to take over other worlds. They ARE the combine, so there really isn’t much effective point in having yet another race of beings above them, especially if they follow a collective consciousness. If anything, the Gman is the ultimate player here.
And one has to keep in mind the metaphysical nature of the Half Life games. In a game that revolves significantly around Quantum mechanics grafted into technology, spectral dimensions, and interstellar beings who can invade your mind, freeze time, and effectively alter reality; Breen surviving the botched teleportation event doesn’t seem that far fetched. You even hear his voice after the device explodes: “you need me,” which brings to mind another idea
Still, I don’t know how he would have gotten from the teleporter to the grub in that sequence, unless it was somehow arranged by the advisor that breen is in contact with. But consider also that Freeman survived a botched teleportation event using the same “Entanglement” technology as professed by Mossman. Like Freeman, He may have been thrust into a temporary harmonic reflux and his consciousness was warped about the cosmos six ways from sunday.
But the fact that they put so much emphasis on the “reincarnation” theory (they practically shove your face into it in Ep1), deems it as still being possible. Like all good scifi writers, Valve and Laidlaw are pretty fucking out there in their mode of thinking. they could pull it off
what if Breen’s host body is G-man? and is now using his new powers to seek revenge on the combine :-P… sorry , even I can pretend to belive that. I just cant think of a good scenario, I think breen is dead