No Dedicated Server support for PC Modern Warfare 2

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#41

Win.

Like I said a long time ago, good developers work around the limitations. Yes there is a limit to how much you can work around, but developers are pushing the limit for what a console can do every day.
Exhibit A: Mass Effect. It was one of the big 360 exclusives that went alongside Halo 3 during the Winter 2007 Gaming Extravaganza, and is one of the best games I have ever played. The art design, story, and length all made for a great gaming experience. Maybe it’s not as complex as Deus Ex, but I personally don’t give a fuck.
And like I said, consoles need to start somewhere. If that somewhere is Halo, then it will start there. Since Halo’s release, console games have only gotten better. Xbox Live was created and thus the first time online multiplayer was possible on a console that wasn’t shit (Go ahead and list your favorite games on that console. I don’t care.) Xbox Live then paved the way for the PSNetwork, which brought a huge innovation over Xbox Live…it’s FREE.
Hell, Unreal Tournament III on the PS3 supports mods, and developers are already talking about bringing more user made content to the console version of their games (even Valve!)
So maybe consoles aren’t up to par with the PC yet, but they’re getting there. I’m not trying to convince you to go out and get a console, but saying that you “wished the Xbox was never released” proves your ignorance. Developers that use console limitations as an excuse deserve to be pointed and laughed at.

On topic: This is just stupid. What, does Activision have some kind of shittyness quota you have to meet for the PC version of multiplatform games? What’s next, are they going to remove keyboard and mouse support? How is this “catering” to the “console-tards.” What kind of broken logic is that? They’re different versions of the same game! Each version can/should take advantage of the capabilities of their respective platform, ie dedicated servers and mods!

#42

Essentially, it is my belief that consoles have added nothing to gaming. They have given us paid DLC and Halo. That is really all I need to say against them. And as for devs pushing the limit for what consoles can do, what’s your point? That they can do something? Woopty doo. Crysis looked better on my computer 2 years ago. And before you say that my computer is a super powerful gaming computer, it cost less than what both consoles and a normal home computer would cost.

#43

exactly, you need all the consoles if you want to play all the games. Some games are Wii exclusive, some games are XBOX 360 exclusive and surprise: some games are PS3 exclusive. I don’t get why people have to constantly bring up the cost argument. It makes no sense.

For the record: I’m a PC gamer only and I don’t play console at all. This means I’m loosing out on some games but I don’t care. I don’t deem Halo 3, Uncharted 2 and other console-only games as MUST PLAY. I can live without them just fine. But I guess that’s what comes out the mouth (figuratively speaking) of a person with limited disposable income. If I had all the money in the world I would obviously own everything. So in that case you can use the cost argument. But it depends on your preferences. If you favor any console you have to exclude the rest.

#44

I guess.
I wasn’t trying to argue which was better, by the way. I was arguing how some PC gamers look down as consoles as “inferior” for reasons that most console gamers don’t give a shit about, and that console gamers aren’t “real” gamers. But now I realize “fuck it, every platform has its fanboys. The best course of action is to ignore them and enjoy your life doing other things.”
Not that I think you’re a fanboy or anything. We all have our preferences. PCs are more for the “hardcore” and “indie” crowd, while consoles are for the ones that just want to play games. Neither side is better overall, but there are individual areas that one side does better than the other (mods for PC, and a guarantee for being able to play a game for consoles without having to worry about your rig.) This is just my opinion though.

Overall, this was a pointless argument. Let’s talk more about how Infinity Ward and Activision sucks!

#45

$60 PC game. RAGE!!!

#46

Activision has been good to me over the years. Now EA, theres a bunch of fuck ups if I ever saw one. About the dedi server business, I personally don’t care that much. I never play anything online other than TF2, DoW2 and the rare game of FEAR 2. Will probably download game, blaze through the SP mode a few times and uninstall it. 60 is asking a bit too much from people who don’t want to play online. Hell even 50 is steep.

#47

I actually like EA. Take the sports games and SIMulators out of the equation, and you have a list of some quality games. Battlefield: Bad Company, Mass Effect (and every future Bioware game), Mirror’s Edge, The Sabatoure looks cool, and Dead Space.
Oh yeah, and BRUTAL LEGEND!!! FUCK YEAH!

#48

Well I like The Sims series.

#49

Hatred towards EA is largely undeserved. At least they don’t raise the price of already overpriced games.

#50

Valve are the prime example of how every gaming company should be. At the top of their minds is enjoyment and community, rather than money and money. Just look at TF2, since it’s release they have been constantly updating, improving, adding and fixing every asset of the game…for free.

#51

Except for their lack of support for online gaming. Prime example: C&C Generals.

#52

Or maybe they do have money at the top of their minds, like every company should in a capitalist society, but are smart enough to realize that the best way to make money is by producing quality products.
A man doesn’t start a business for the benefit of others. They start a business to get paid. Having a philosophy for quality is just a side effect. And luckily for us, Valve has a huge philosophy for quality.

But I agree, Valve is the perfect model for GOOD gaming companies to make money. But Activision has found ways to make shit but still make a billion times more money.
That’s by dangling a mediocre but competent first game in front of a crowd teenage males that had an Xbox as their first gaming system, said crowd will praise it for its “amazing graphics” and “amazing gameplay” (mind you, the “amazing gameplay” is just your average iron-sights shooter.) Then you can just reskin and release the same game for the next 10 years. The same can be applied to Guitar Hero. Sure, some times an original game will come out of there ([Prototype]), but for the most part, its just sequels/reskins.
Even franchises praised for their originality have been whored to fucking death (Guitar Hero.)

They’re good at hypnotism too. Their army of teenage retards will defend their franchise to the death against anyone that says otherwise. Whether it’s just retarded fanboyism (CoD sux k Battlefield is sooo much betta!”) or legitimate complaints (“So the only way to get better at the game is if I have better guns. The only way to get better guns is to rank up. The only way to rank up is to get better at the game. WTF?”), the fanboys will attack (Halo is CoD4’s bitch!), defend (“you just don’t like the ranking system becuz u suck!”), and praise (“CoD4 is soooo amazing it gratest gam eva!”)
I was playing some “Splinter Cell: DA” with some friends, they asked me if I was getting MW2, and I said “I don’t like CoD.” They freaked out and made me play as a Merc (mind you, I hate playing Mercs.) They then grabbed me and pushed me over the railing.

Though I admit the more I hear about MW2 the more I feel like it’s going to fix every little problem I had with CoD4 and be the perfect multiplayer shooter. So far, I heard they took about Juggernaut… that’s a good thing.
Maybe I’ll rent it, since I’m not a stubborn Halo fanboy.

But one thing, WHY DID THEY SHOW THAT IN THE TRAILER?! That could have been the new “CoD4 Nuke” for MW2! Activision’s marketing sucks!

tl:dr version: Valve wants money, Valve makes good games, Activision loves money, Activision sucks, MW2 looks good, spoilers sucks

#53

Note the “largely”.

#54

As a C&C fan (note i don’t consider Generals a proper C&C game) I have my own grudges against EA, but they have started to redeem them selves of late. Even going as far as cancelling games because there going the way of Opposing Force in cannon train wreck terms, see: TIBERUM

#55

Protip: You’re not a real C&C fan if you dont consider Generals a proper C&C game.

#56

When is the MW2 pre-load?

#57

Never, probably.

#58

https://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/332883.html

Hitler does not approve either.

#59

Love those videos.

#60

That’s a great movie. Der Untergang.

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