MW3 vs BF3

[Llewen_Ebag]

fuckin double post

[xalener]

@Bolteh

So you just want to play a game for retards where the only thing you do is point at the opponent (probably on the x-axis only as well)?

Shit, you must find whack-a-mole the best game in the universe.

Come on dude. If you’re trying to make a case, be less sweeping about it. I still enjoy Doom shittons. More than I do COD. Mostly because of the speed. You can actually flank in Doom. Sure, the enemies don’t really move or fight back, but that’s not the point. Doom is fun to me because your character is every bit of a bullet as the ones that you out of your gun.

Fuck, COD is every bit whack-a-mole as Doom is. Except in COD the moles are numbered and you have to go in order. I’d go as far as to say the gameplay is the same… I mean, you aim down sights in both games. You sprint in both games. You can’t look up or down in Doom, and you don’t need to look up and down in COD. You can’t jump in Doom, and your jump in COD is half an inch off the ground. I’d call them almost the same.With the exception being that COD is in slow motion and Doom is 4x faster than real life, which I enjoy.

@Maxx Skywalker

Halo’s fine, but I still don’t see how it revolutionized anything. Goldeneye was far more influential than Halo had ever been. And that’s saying something about a licensed title.

How? It had spit-screen MP and was a game in first person, but that’s it. There’s not that many things that’s been carried from it that still exists today. Even console spit-screen, goldeneye’s saving grace, is dieing (which is horrible because that’s one of the very few advantages console shooters have over pc shooters). It’s far too removed from what FPSs have become to have any evidence of having changed anything. Fuck, I was playing the original Halo only a few hours ago. Excluding graphical and audio and cutscene choreography capability, it may as well have come out days ago. Also, it’s AI is still pretty god damn sharp. I almost forgot that enemies don’t stand there eating bullets when you fire at them, no matter how close or far you are from them. It’s actually kinda sad how little FPSs have changed since then tbh.

Why are we talking about Halo in this BATTLEFIELD thread? I just use it as a tiny fucking example and you assholes go apeshit.

Fucking yeasty codpieces, the lot of you.

[Kairouseki]

@GordonFreeManz

I ain’t 11. I was just joking… honest to God. I’m 21 years old… and for your information DOOM is still fun to play these days. So WHAT? It may not stand up today… WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Playing DOOM on Nightmare mode is still better than playing MW3. I’m not a goddamn moron. I’m just a goddamn DOOM fan. You gotta problem with that buddy? For crying out loud, most of the old games are better than these new games. NONE of the new games have the same spirit as the 90’s (except Halo and TES, Forza, Mario, and Zelda) DOOM will always be a good game. It will always be a game kids can look back on and say “HEY THAT’S A GOOD GAME” for me it’s a good game. Yes I know I’m 21. But the game is still fun to this day.

                  Half-Life 1 will always be better than MW3 and BF3. Sorry, guys... But you guys NEED to seriously stop hating on 90's games and stop blowing smoke up COD's and BF's ass. Ever since BF2, and COD4... Things went downhill... They SHOULD have just stuck with WW2 games... or at least make the games more innovative with new technology instead of new perks, etc.etc.etc. Battlefield, is JUST as bad. Honestly, the "Russian is the enemy" is getting tired. I'm COMPLETELY tired of it. I'm part-Russian for your information.
                     
                 Another thing, we need more games like Unreal, DOOM, Wolfenstein 3D, Quake, and Half-Life 1. That same in your face intense action, while having a good story, and just fun to play forever. 

And you see… your message is really stupid… you said " It was revolutionary for its time, but the gameplay doesn’t stand up today at all."

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU??? A GODDAMN IGN REVIEWER? THAT WAS A 1993 GAME, I DON’T CARE IF IT’S NOT PERFECT TODAY. IT’S A FUCKING 1993 GAME! >

Seriously, why do we have retards on the internet.

DOOM still a good game to play. It’s still revolutionary. It’s a work of art, a masterpiece if you will. It was the building block for Quake, Half-Life, and COD1. Honestly… COD1, and COD2 were my favorite COD games. Then it went downhill… same with Battlefield. Only BF1942, BF1943, and the WW2 BF’s were my favorite. Honestly…

You guys are just too immature. You think “OH MW3 SO MUCH BETTER! BF3 SO MUCH BETTER!”

The reason why I said DOOM was because it’s a work of art, a masterpiece, and it was the building block for those 2 games. For your information, DOOM has much better gameplay then just… “WATCH OUT RUSSIAN! GRENADE!” grenade blows up bloody screen Honestly… and there’s fucking regenerating health? There should be health packs. I like Halo because the regenerating health ACTUALLY has an explanation. The explanation is that you have special MJOLNIR Armor created by the UNSC. It actually comes up with a reasonable scientific explanation…

Instead of COD3, COD4, COD5, COD6, COD7, and COD8… where it’s just regenrating health without an explanation. What are you? A super-soldier or something? AT LEAST HAVE A DAMN EXPLANATION!

Also, 90’s games worked because the idea was there. Fun, action, and awesomeness. The devs actually cared about the player, they also didn’t care about realism either. They were trying to be as creative and imaginative as possible.

Whereas today they are trying to be as realistic as possible.
I like realistic-sci fi.

Because, it’s realistic but it has sci-fi to make it fun and not boring. (Halo, GOW, Warhammer, and Half-Life) Really, my point is…

We just need more sci-fi and fantasy FPS games out there.
We need the George Lucas of the Gaming Industry. We need something innovative, fresh, new, fun, sci-fi, FPS, and gorey.

I’m getting sick of “ZE VRUSSIANS” We need something new… Why can’t we fight Nazis? Or demons? Or aliens?

I mean, why is it… that NOBODY considers rebooting Unreal 1 or remaking Unreal 1? Sure, the gameplay may not “be today’s standards” But still, the only way WE will get kids talking about reboots or remakes of 90’s games… the ONLY way this generation will realize how good the 90’s masterpieces, and how there needs to be more sci-fi shooters out there… is if someone just makes a game with that gameplay.

AND WHO THE FUCK GIVES A SHIT IF THE INDUSTRY’S MOVED ON!!!

Games aren’t what they used to be. Games used to be fun, tell a good story, have fun gameplay, devs would be more creative and care about the player, and… everyone would have a good time.

Class dismissed.
:freeman:

u mad?

[mankyman6]

Are you people trying to contend with War and Peace with these comments?

SO MUCH TL;DR!!!111!!11!!1

[Jethrosoup]

@GordonFreeManz

Honestly, the “Russian is the enemy” is getting tired. I’m COMPLETELY tired of it. I’m part-Russian for your information.

Both sides of my family emigrated to the US from Germany, and I like WWII shooters, so… I don’t really see your point? I don’t know how relative heritage is when you’re discussing shooting imaginary video game characters.

[Joe_Freeman]

However it does actually get boring. Couldn’t they make something like a war in Africa between different clans or a guerrilla warfare in some third world country? Because there are almost no games about that, but there must be more than one hundred about killing nazis and russians.

[Kairouseki]

No, because killing black people in Africa is racist don’t you know that.

[Llewen_Ebag]

@Joe Freeman

However it does actually get boring. Couldn’t they make something like a war in Africa between different clans or a guerrilla warfare in some third world country? Because there are almost no games about that, but there must be more than one hundred about killing nazis and russians.

Oh god this. At least it’s something- Oh wait… Wasn’t FarCry 2 something along those lines? Well at least we have the insect people from the earths core card…

Wait, what do you mean GOW did it?

[BahamutBBob]

The Locust aren’t insects, they’re just ashy. [COLOR=‘Black’]Oh snap!

[xalener]

They seem more like…

They can’t even be described really. They’re scaly people with corpse faces.

I mean the whole game has a hardcore Frank Frazetta look (which is why the visual style is my favorite part of the franchise) and some stuff just can’t be explained.

[Maxx_Skywalker]

@Llewen Ebag

Oh god this. At least it’s something- Oh wait… Wasn’t FarCry 2 something along those lines? Well at least we have the insect people from the earths core card…

Wait, what do you mean GOW did it?

Don’t forget about Resident Evil 5…

You shoot African. . .Americans in Grand Theft Auto. Does that count?

[GordonFreeManz]

@Llewen Ebag

I was refering to the fact that STALKER is thousand times better than Halo. Believe me, I’ve played Halo. What you’re missing is nothing you’ll find worth remembering.

Proper edit:

That’s a good one, Wolfenstein 3D having a good story. Yeah, that ending was deeply moving. Same for Doom and Quake.

The problem with regenerating health is NOT because it’s “unexplained”, that’s just an elevated whine. The real problem is that you can get all your fucking health back by sprinting as far away as possible from your enemies and taking cover. There is nothing keeping the tension alive rather than a 10 second pause between each go. In fact, that’s one of the mayor things that I liked about BF3 multiplayer.

fuck i didnt realize your were trollin sorry my bad

I’m not trolling… I was just giving a lecture to all those insane fanboys. And I agree with you on the regenerating health issue.

[geekofalltrades]

@Joe Freeman

However it does actually get boring. Couldn’t they make something like a war in Africa between different clans or a guerrilla warfare in some third world country? Because there are almost no games about that, but there must be more than one hundred about killing nazis and russians.

There’s a reason gaming companies don’t make games based on conflicts like you suggest: their audience doesn’t know a fucking thing about them.

[Nerdguy]

Why can’t America be a mastermind of some ridiculous plot involving WMD’s and Jews in video games for sake

[Llewen_Ebag]

Because it would be weird since they “saved us from the nazis, communists and terrorism”.

[xalener]

Because the plot doesn’t involve russians.

[CTID]

@Nerdguy

Why can’t America be a mastermind of some ridiculous plot involving WMD’s and Jews in video games for sake

I think that’d be a cool concept, really, but it’d probably be banned or protested in America because AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL CAN DO NO WRONG

[Kairouseki]

I want a simulator where you play as an American taking Japanese families from their homes and throwing them into internment camps.

[Jethrosoup]

@CTID

I think that’d be a cool concept, really, but it’d probably be banned or protested in America because AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL CAN DO NO WRONG

But so many movies and TV shows and stuff have the US (at least, the government/military) as the villains. In fact, in the movie I’m currently watching, this is the case.

[CTID]

There are also tons of movies in which the genocide of people is depicted and nobody bats an eye but if a video game does it, it causes an uproar.