MW3 vs BF3

[Bolteh]

I was actually able to follow MW3’s story… In BF3 I still don’t get what the fuck it was about, though I must say that I enjoyed BF3’s method of attempting to tell the story was better (and with this I mean that the whole cinematic feel was nice… unlike MW3s fast-panning over notes, screens, blackboards, and what not).

[CTID]

Call of Duty has never been about storyline, really. It’s always been about showing more more spectacular set-piece events.

[GordonFreeManz]

MW3 vs BF3? The answer is obvious…
DOOM kicks their ass.
DOOM, Wolfenstein 3D, Quake 1, Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2: Episode 1, Half-Life 2: Episode 2, Unreal 1, Halo (series), and most importantly…

Blood.

[GordonFreeManz]

@xalener

I vote BF3 for sound design. In something like a shooter, where immersion and viscerality (not realism) reigns supreme, that’s probably the most important element that a game can have. Plus, the unlocks are limited to weapons and MINOR, REASONABLE personal augmentations.

Plus the biggest problem I have with COD is it’s community. The game itself doesn’t actually have that many issues in terms of core mechanics… .Well, I abhor the idea of killstreaks… and perks (or the particular perks that the game has) have no place in a multiplayer setting… and the weapons all seem to just be shoved into the game with no real sense of purpose or balance…

Alright, I dislike COD… I guess it’s mostly because it’s not so much a game as it is a conduit for people’s exploitative nature. I don’t mind that it’s not as teamwork oriented as some games. I’m fine with that. It’s everything else. The ridiculously low health along with the ridiculously high movement speed. The whole “if you play a week less than other people do, you’re fucked” thing. I just can’t subscribe to it. Just about every competitive component of COD goes against what my idea of what a video game is for. I guess my problem is that I see COD as a symbol for all that is wrong in shooters instead of just a game. The campaigns are still pretty fun though… But they’re getting kinda deconstructable and predictable now.

If it went back to it’s older gameplay style it had in COD I-II, I’d be fine with it.

Niether games really nail my taste though… It’s kinda why I’ve been into simpler shooters that allow more of a direct connection from player to game with less unlock gimmicky bullshit like Halo and Gears…Gotta pick up Space Marine too…wow… Is there another modern MP shooter that’s not “OAISHODHAOS FIRAQ RUSSIA WAR WARW WAR AWR AWR KJLASKHFLKJHAKSJF NUUUUKES” that’s recent? Fuck, Epic needs to make another Unreal. A REAL unreal.

Everyone’s afraid to make dumb, simple, ADSless shooters nowadays. :s … WAIT! SERIOUS SAM 3–wait. Well, it’s more the pseudo twitch style I like despite it’s use of “modern” FPS features.

We need more old style shooters. Or some revolution has to happen. Something.

Amen I say! AMEN! We need more non-serious shooters alright. Now-a-days… Shooters are always…

“VE ARE ZE VRUSSIANS! VE VANT TO BLOW UP ZE VORLD WITH ZE NUCLEAR MIZZLE BOMB!”

It gets old after a while. Which is why I love…

Halo.
The best sci-fi series in the world. Only second to Half-Life and DOOM.

[StOnE]

@GordonFreeManz

MW3 vs BF3? The answer is obvious…
DOOM kicks their ass.
DOOM, Wolfenstein 3D, Quake 1, Half-Life 1, Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2: Episode 1, Half-Life 2: Episode 2, Unreal 1, Halo (series), and most importantly…

Blood.

Yeah… NO

While those games were all great in their time (except Halo)… it’s not even comparable anymore. I couldn’t go back and play most of those.

[Mr.Night]

Then why are you on this forum board? It’s Half-Life we’re talking about here (mostly).

[asethapart]

The best new multiplayer shooter is going to be TimeSplitters 4

[xalener]

@StOnE

Yeah… NO

While those games were all great in their time (except Halo)… it’s not even comparable anymore. I couldn’t go back and play most of those.

Speak for yourself. I still enjoy those old shooters more than anything that’s come out in the last 9 years.
Call me an oldfag, but shooters have been going down a set path since a certain point in time, and they rarely deviate. It’s gotten to the point where you have to look towards specific franchises and developers to find a shooter that doesn’t adhere to this bullshit framework. That’s pathetic.

[geekofalltrades]

@StOnE

Yeah… NO

While those games were all great in their time (except Halo)… it’s not even comparable anymore. I couldn’t go back and play most of those.

I honestly don’t get people who think like this. I still play Half-Life and a boatload of its mods. Stop being a graphics whore.

Also, the Halo franchise were good games. Overrated, but still good; the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

[samzala]

sure is a thread to be talking about games other than buttlefield and modern copyware

[BahamutBBob]

@GordonFreeManz

Halo (series)

:hmph:

The story in Halo was okay, but the multiplayer, IMO, was ruined by the community, and their desire to only play modes based on deathmatch. Halo had so much more potential in it’s gamemodes, but yeah, too much deathmatch.
(I don’t hate deathmatch, but I do like variety, which deathmatch 99.9% of the time doesn’t really offer)

[Maxx_Skywalker]

@Jethrosoup

I can see you are approaching this conversation with maturity.

You know it’s true.

@asethapart

The best new multiplayer shooter is going to be TimeSplitters 4

Dude! Yes!

There needs to be another one for the HD generation.

[GordonFreeManz]

@BahamutBBob

:hmph:

The story in Halo was okay, but the multiplayer, IMO, was ruined by the community, and their desire to only play modes based on deathmatch. Halo had so much more potential in it’s gamemodes, but yeah, too much deathmatch.
(I don’t hate deathmatch, but I do like variety, which deathmatch 99.9% of the time doesn’t really offer)

The most recent one… Halo: Reach had a lot of gamemodes. And Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary is coming out. Thank god I preordered it!

[GordonFreeManz]

@xalener

Speak for yourself. I still enjoy those old shooters more than anything that’s come out in the last 9 years.
Call me an oldfag, but shooters have been going down a set path since a certain point in time, and they rarely deviate. It’s gotten to the point where you have to look towards specific franchises and developers to find a shooter that doesn’t adhere to this bullshit framework. That’s pathetic.

I still don’t get why I’m the only 6th grader in my class that loves playing DOOM over COD! :’(

WHY CAN’T MY CLASSMATES APPRECIATE GOOD OLD GAMES LIKE HALO AND STUFF???

[GordonFreeManz]

@geekofalltrades

I honestly don’t get people who think like this. I still play Half-Life and a boatload of its mods. Stop being a graphics whore.

Also, the Halo franchise were good games. Overrated, but still good; the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

Overrated? It’s not overrated. In fact, if you want overrated play COD or Battlefield. THOSE are overrated. Do you see anyone in schools talking about Halo, Timesplitters, DOOM, or Wolfenstein? No… Sadly not. I wish all the kids in my class would start talking about DOOM, Wolfenstein, Quake, Blood, Halo, Duke Nukem, Shadow Warrior, Timesplitters, The Elder Scrolls, Heretic, Hexen and Unreal…

Honestly, Epic should reboot Unreal 1. Or at least remake Unreal 1 with modern day graphics and leave the gameplay untouched. Like remake Unreal 1 in Unreal Engine 3…

I don’t care if 90’s gameplay is outdated. But that was back when the story was sci-fi… WE NEED MORE SCI-FI AND FANTASY FPS GAMES OUT THERE!!!

[Bolteh]

Doom was good in its day and age… And that’s all. If you think Doom is better than a current installment of CoD, no matter how much it has been milked, rehashed and overpriced, then you’re just a massive fool.

Also, how about putting everything in one post?

[GordonFreeManz]

For all of the COD fans out there…
We hardcore Halo fans, Wolfenstein fans, DOOM fans, Half-Life fans, Quake fans, Counter-Strike fans, Blood fans, Duke Nukem fans, Shadow Warrior fans, The Elder Scrolls fans, Timesplitters fans, Heretic fans, Hexen fans, and Unreal fans…
WE’VE BEEN HERE FOR 19 YEARS!!!

Oh and FYI…
Sci-fi FPS games are better than realistic FPS games… (Yeah I’m talking to you COD, Battlefield, ARMA, and MOH)

[GordonFreeManz]

@Bolteh

Doom was good in its day and age… And that’s all. If you think Doom is better than a current installment of CoD, no matter how much it has been milked, rehashed and overpriced, then you’re just a massive fool.

Also, how about putting everything in one post?

I’m not a fool, either. DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY? Because… COD just fucking sucks. No matter HOW many times you try to defend it… DOOM will always prevail over COD. ALWAYS!!! No reloading in DOOM, No regenerating health, no modern gameplay shit… IT’S A MAN’S GAME THAT’S WHAT IT IS!!!

[Bolteh]

So you just want to play a game for retards where the only thing you do is point at the opponent (probably on the x-axis only as well)?

Shit, you must find whack-a-mole the best game in the universe.

[CTID]

@GordonFreeManz

WE’VE BEEN HERE FOR 19 YEARS!!!

According to you, you’re 11. So, no you haven’t.

Also Doom is fucking boring to play nowadays. Like Bolteh said, it was revolutionary for its time, but the gameplay doesn’t stand up today at all. And if you think it does, then you’re a goddamn moron.

Also, Jesus fuck learn to use the edit button.