Know Why Were In Afghanistan?

#101

Well technically they are fighting terrorism, in the broad sense of the word. US troops were fighting terrorists in Vietnam, and the South African Nationalist Party was fighting anti-apartheid terrorists as well. You’re only manipulated by the US government (or just plain ignorant) if you think the word “terrorist” means some Arab bloke blowing himself up in a city square.

Currently most of the forces in Afghanistan are fighting a terrorist enemy, whether it be direct combat with militia or convincing the population to stand against them.

#102

Did you know that Taliban is not a terrorism group in the US, but in Afghanistan? Now they are fighting us because they don’t know (like most of the people in this thread) why the hell we are in there!

#103

did you guys know that every after-action report in the first 8 years of the war just got leaked online today?

#104

The republicans still had the whole 1950s mentality that’s why we’ve been in 2 wars lately
At above post: Wait what?

#105

Woah! This could be the best way to manipulate the American people!

#106

No one said the Taliban is a global terrorist group, but the reality is that they are using terrorist methodology to attack a percieved invader. I’m not saying if that’s correct or not, it’s just the truth.

The main reason foreign armies there was because the international community disagreed with the extreme policies of the Taliban government. Naturally the Taliban thinks they were doing a fine job so they’re trying to regain power.

#107

The reason we are in there is because America is the worlds biggest and most manipulating Super-powerful country!

#108

just had to try an’ beat the soviets at everything!

#109

we get it, the US manipulates people, shut the fuck up already

#110

9/11

They started it.

#111

Who did?

#112

Is it just me or does this prove my theory?

#113

also the war in afghanistan started before 9/11

#114

In an exploratory attempt to form instantaneous travel, two Soviet airliners, while taking off seventeen minutes apart from the same runway, were erased from history in an experiment gone awry late spring of 1981, only to mysteriously and tragically reappear in September 2001, roughly 7,750 kilometers over the Earth’s magnetic north pole in New York City.

After the failure the project was deemed a waste of funding, and the equipment was put into storage and eventually sold to the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan along with various other containers of mechanical surplus much needed by the materiel-short regime. It was lost over time, and American agents maintained a small level of information regarding the experiment - - not its precise nature, but where it was, when it was canceled, and where its equipment ended up.

A plot of terrorism was concocted after the disaster to placate any Russian memories of their two lost airframes, with an entry into Afghanistan (to obtain and resurrect this assumed-worthless technology). When American intentions in Afghanistan began to be questioned, a distraction was staged along the Euphrates.

Estimates for a pullout of Afghanistan are based on how soon the last of the equipment is expected to be tracked down. It will be buried innocently in the withdrawal’s myriad shipments.

#115

Not really, your idea goes into global conspiracy realms, far beyond the ignorance of single people.

#116

#117

Yes.

Protip (though not directed at you): The Taliban =/= Al Qaeda

My lord you just don’t stop do you? I was studying for exams back then so I didn’t notice your post.

So, right, let’s get to it.

The 1973 overthrow was, as you have correctly pointed out, a coup. The 1978 Saur revolution was not, however, a coup; it was a revolution carried out by the local communist party.

The 1978 Coup was not supported by the USSR. It was a native Communist Party who rose up completely separately from either the US or the USSR. As a result, nobody knew what on earth was going on. It wasn’t until about 6 months later when the USSR and the new government signed a non-aggression pact that the US got wind that something strange was up. When the USSR instructed a bunch of Afghani police to open fire on a US ambassador who was being held hostage, they knew that they certainly weren’t going to be buddies.

Funny story: When the USSR invaded and installed their own government, did you know what they did to the old guy? They killed him. Why? Because it wasn’t just a case of the USSR being asked to go in; they invaded to stop the native Islamic movement from taking over and spreading their interests to the USSR’s other Arab-dominated interests. They killed off the old leader not because he asked for the USSR to come in, but because they forcefully came in to protect their own interests.

Just because you propose an alternative viewpoint to me doesn’t make yours right, and even if you are it doesn’t mean that you get the right to be a self-righteous git about it.

Aw shucks.

#118

i hope your exams had nothing to do with Afghan history, because you fail hard:

This is how every coup in history works. The military decides they don’t like the democratic government, so they remove them by force and install martial law. Shortly after, the military government installs a “civilian” puppet government typically through sham elections. The puppet government acts democratic superficially, but the final authority always rests with the military. In this way, the gullible and ignorant can plausibly claim that there was no coup, and the whole episode was simply an exercise in democracy. This relies on peopleconveniently “forgetting” that the military takeover ever happened, and as we can see from this conversation it’s a highly effective tactic.

In this case, the afghan army was supplied by the USSR, the “civilian government” had strong ties to the USSR, the “local communist party” had strong ties to the USSR. Sure, the Russians deposed the head of the civilian government when they invaded, but they also installed one of the founding members of the supposedly “local” communist party to replace him as the figurehead.

This is not “proposing an alternate viewpoint,” this is pointing out how historical fact proves that what you are saying is at best false and at worst a deliberate distortion to support your bizarre insistence that the democratic overthrow of a monarchy is a coup, but a military takeover of civilian government is a “revolution.”

#119

i learnt all about the history of us and soviet intervention in afghanistan from the hit documentary rambo 3

#120

Quoted for truth.

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