Know Why Were In Afghanistan?

#1

Do you know why were in Afghanistan? Its not because of the Taliban, or because of al qaeda. Its because we found Lithium there, so all their interested in is mining it out and making more batteries. We should leave Afghanistan TODAY!!! I hate all of those ignorant republicans who say that if we leave there, that they will just come over here. Well if we hadn’t of gone over there in the first place this dirty little war wouldn’t be happening.

#2

Oh u. Quit trying to understand and repeat the noise your parents make. You are not sounding intelligent, you are sounding like a parrot.

I thought you were leaving anyway.

#3

I find that theory unlikely. It’s more like the same reason we were in Vietnam for a decade, because no politician wants to be historically responsible for overseeing a war which wasn’t “won,” and therefore they will ensure that the military stays active as long as they are in office, at which time its the next guy’s problem. Oh yeah and oil. And the military-industrial-congressional complex.

#4

Simple, plain old self interest.

Weapons manufacturers get more funding when there is a war abroad, and the weapons industry has a huge influence in every western country, especially the US. Afghanistan also has plenty of ressources. Oil and Uranium ore being the most important ones. Both are needed to maintain the current standard of living in the western world - and we have not enough reserves of them for ourselves. So we gotta rob other people of theirs. It’s not like they could have any use for them themselves. Not after we are done with them.

This war isn’t any different from any other war that was ever fought. The main driving power is greed. It’ll always be.

#5

I want to feel proud that Swampfox has tried to make a decent thread, but the horrednous way it’s been carried out makes me want to cry.

#6

I skimmed over the whole thread just to say that this thread is bad and should burn.

#7

i skimmed over your post just to say that there’s a 99% chance you have the autism

#8

Lithium? I have that in my laptop battery.

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#9

you are a moron

We just found lithium this month. We have no stake because we live across the fucking ocean, China is more likely to cash in on it. Or maybe Russia.

So no, that’s not why we are there.

#10

China? Russia? How? “Afghanistan” as a political entity is an American client state. The good news is maybe we can pay them to mine lithium instead of paying them not to shoot at us.

#11

wrong thread deleteme

#12

Why were what?

#13

No the drive for uranium has almost died. Its almost not worth to mine right now. If we did need it that badly then I would have seen a lot of the old mine roads fixed.

#14

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Um, wat? Afghanistan has always had resource issues and we never invaded then. Throughout the 90s there were issues with the Taliban refusing to allow a pipeline to be built through the country, and we never invaded. I think there were three reasons the UN sanctioned an invasion of Afghanistan:

Self defence - America was attacked by a particular group. They acted to defend themselves against that group. Afghanistan was a hub of international terrorist activity, with jihadists spreading their ideology to other Muslim (and sometimes non-Muslim) countries around the world. Notable examples were the Indonesian Bali Bombings, and the bombings of the US embassies in a few ME countries).

Putting aside the fact that the US enabled these groups in the first place during the Cold War (by, I don’t know, giving them weapons and money), they had a right to invade to prevent future attacks.

Humanitarian intervention - Afghanistan is a failed state. This was especially true leading up to the Taliban takeover in 1995; massive civil war destroyed most of the country, and by the late 90s there was nothing left. Warlords ruled the country; there was no government, no civil service, no stable infrastructure. The people of Afghanistan suffered horribly during this time, and as such, a humanitarian intervention to restore a stable democracy would be good for the populace as a whole.

Transnational Crime - Afghanistan was a huge hub of transnational crime; smuggling, drugs, you name it, Afghanistan had it. That trade, consequently, had hugely destructive effects on a variety of countries around the world, especially the US. Invading to stop that kind of incidious trade is a legitimate purpose, but probably ancillary to the main aims.

The problem with Afghanistan is that it had no natural resources, so it resorted to growing poppies and getting all of its money off heroin. The way to stop this is to give the people an alternative source of income; that is, some form of resource that the government can use to fund itself and form a stable economy. Lithium is the best thing they can use for this purpose at the moment, and it’ll greatly assist the reconstruction effort.

#15

So why all the hate about the war?

#16

As usual your facts and framing are suspect, loony.

This is not historically accurate, the project was started in '95 and Taliban signed in agreement allow the pipeline in '98.

A group of Saudis. There were training camps in Afghanistan but US military sources say there were never more than 800 AQ foot soldiers there. So its not really accurate to say AQ was “based” there or spreading any ideology “from” there. There was and is just as much if not more influence from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Civil war destroyed the country? I think you mean the Russian occupation. Which was more than likely justified for the exact same reason - the Russian army had to destroy the country in order to save Afghans from themselves. Now the American army has to destroy the country in order to save Afghans from the fallout from the Russian destruction. And of course Afghans suffer horribly the whole time, regardless of who is trying to save them.

Overthrowing governments to stop drug trade is not legitimate in any sense. And, as is the general trend with your points, it has a history of being used as a justification for a lot of heinous national policy atrocities, particularly in the Americas.

So to recap this little essay, the western world had to occupy and install a puppet government in Afghanistan because 800 Saudi militants had a training camp there, previous occupations caused a humanitarian crisis which for which the only solution was further occupations, and finally because some of the narcotics consumed by westerners were produced there. And people find this to be a convincing argument in your experience?

#17

I just finished rewatching The Beast. I think all of you should give it gander as it shows a little perspective of the local populace to foreign armies, and shows why the Taliban are actually supported in the outer regions.

#18

sorta i developed my own opinion upon what my parents said

also this

#19

republicans piss me off

EDIT: sorry for double post

#20

You’re in Afghanistan because the US hates brown people. Tru fact.

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