Embryonic stem cell research



Unexplainable statue of Jesus bleeding with microscopic rose thorns which were found to be 1976 years old found in the blood. Dr Ricardo Castanon, an atheist studied this statue since the first supernatural occurence since 1995.

https://www.visionsofjesuschrist.com/weeping68.htm
CAT scans revealed that there is nothing to make the tears and human blood fall with 2000 year old rose thorns yet it weeps and human blood continuously fall from it.

See the evidence here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn3JsdSwxfE

Totally pointless.

Oh so now because there’s something you can’t explain, you ignore the evidence? typical atheist, out of touch with reality.

No, I just meant it is pointless to this thread.

This isnt a religion thread.

No evidence there. It is extremely easy to make any statue “exude” a liquid. Since the ceramic is porous, simply apply a glaze to the statue. Then, all you need to do is to fill the statue’s interior with the liquid of choice. The glaze will keep the liquid inside until you’re ready for the reveal – simply scratch the surfaces that you want to ‘bleed’ or ‘weep’ and later, it’ll begin ‘bleeding’ or ‘weeping’. Once you examine it, it’ll have already bled out and you won’t find anything inside.

Not even worthy of a mention.

A. I skipped through that video and nowhere in it did I see hard evidence that any of this was actually true. I didn’t even get to see a video of the supposed bleeding and tears.

B. You are ignoring 50% of my logical reasonable arguments

surf teh internets. You will find people who say they got raped by aliens, or their father came to them as a ghost, or they are engaged to bigfoot. There’s even a television show where a bunch of dumbasses go into regular house at night and piss their pants like little kids. Do you really think any of it is true?

EDIT: daniel’s explanation was even better than mine.

also it was off topic

EEEE Wrong. the Atheist did a cat scan while it was bleeding and there is no liquid inside of the statue and it is not hollow or porous. Take a look at all the 7 parts of the video, test yourself. Oh wait none of you care about your immortal soul. There’s no point to talk to you ignorant apathetic atheists anymore I’m going to ask the Carmalites to pray for all of you for 5 years. You’re all ignoring your spiritual life because of pride.

Once again, people lie.

Now, can you actually come up with an argument based off logic and reason and evidence not involving a statue none among us have even seen?

Garthbartin is win.

Oh and what about a piece of bread that turned into bleeding veiny flesh at consecration? Are you going to ignore that too? how about wine turned into a piece of heart? or a person healed from polio by the water in Lourdes? You’re all blind. (by all I of course mean you atheists)

Yes we would ignore that.

I haven’t seen any of these occur. Why should I believe something completely ludicrous that I haven’t seen? The majority of my arguments involve no fantastical miracles that could have easily been made up. My challenge still holds, show me some idiotic Catholic qoute from your Theologica Summa and watch me smash its logic.

Until you come up with an argument that is based of logic and evidence that is not a ridiculously obvious hoax you will not be taken seriously.

In case there’s anyone here willing to know of authentic Eucharistic Miracles, take a look at the Eucharistic Miracles playlist I have made. The Church on earth and in heaven will be praying for you. Goodbye.

https://www.youtube.com/user/joeb0#grid/user/BF673B70FC406120

PS Garthbartin, read Summa Theologica yourself. If you’re too apathetic and lazy to read it on your own there’s no reason for me to get out of my way to read it to you.

I think Cup o Joe is playing us. Well, I ain’t playing his game anymore. Next he’s going to be posting moon-landing-is-a-hoax photos.

Have a great holiday, Cup o Joe…if you can.

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You’re denying and dodging questions. You’re wrong, and you’re denying it. I wont believe in a “miracle” until it happens before my eyes and I have gone over every possible reasonable explanation, and you shouldn’t either. You’re being hoaxed and tricked.

Yes Cup o Joe should learn that not all info is real.

I don’t know what you mean by a *right, but a dolphin is in fact superior to a dog in every respect. Any cruelty to a dog would be 1000x more cruel to a dolphin by virtue of the fact that dolphins have self-concept which is comparable to human self-concept. Evidence: dolphins are one of 3 species which recognize themselves in a mirror. In other words, dolphins are cognizant that something is “happening to me,” whereas a dog simply has the reflexive cognition that something is “happening” which is pleasant or unpleasant. Dogs are capable of experiencing pleasure and pain, a dolphin is capable of experiencing tragedy.

A mosquito can feel pain and pleasure, but nobody would argue it has the same “rights” as a dog. In other words, the basic existential “right” to not suffer is not equal among all life, on the contrary it must be mediated by a particular organism’s ability to experience suffering.

On topic, stem cells have zero capacity for experience of anything, let alone such advanced concepts as suffering. Therefore they are not individuals, their scientific study is not “murder,” and any argument to the contrary is most likely religiously motivated delusion based on faith in an arbitrary series of words in an antique textbook.

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in a not gay way.

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