Abortion

You’re English is fine - that’s not the problem.

Consciousness and sentience are two different things.

People in comas have sentience, but are not conscious.

Comatose and brain dead are two different states.

Piefish, you are something like the Suffolk Ripper of pointless Board pics.
It’s terrible to watch.

u mad?

We already had that.

Imad.

…that is one of the dumbest things I have ever read, A cell has no brian or moind it does not strive for life, the process of it taking nutrients in and wastes out are just what it does. If it dies it won’t care

I have a moind too

It’s a Gordian Knot really.
Why are there abortions? <-- because women don’t feel like being able to care for the unborn.
Why don’t women feel like being able to care for the unborn? <-- because there is no longer any certainty or stability in families.
Why is that? <-- because divorce has become so easy.
Why is that? <-- because there is no peer pressure on those thinking about divorce NOT to divorce; Divorced people become successful; Changing wives like clothes makes you successful.
Why is that? <-- …

And what pro-life / pro-choice are arguing about is the most internal of all those knots, while they should be trying to untie the most external knots, one at a time.

  1. Start by social pressure that would promote stable, long-lasting and respectful marriages.
  2. At the same time, create social pressure on people to be consider very thoroughly the qualities of their partners with which they want to engage (and get married) – no longer “Instant Weddings” in Vegas as an option.

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1: we have that. Its called religion and like all bullshit social pressure, it does nothing, nip, nathan, nada to address the practical reasons why people need/want/have abortions.
2: Once again, the quality of union argument had been used to death by social conservatives to rationalize their ignoring of the practical needs for legal safe abortions

because most of them are selfish retards?

yeah, and noone dies!!! yay!

If we passed laws against stupidity, I believe you’d be the first to go. :slight_smile:

Except for if you reduce women’s right to choose, you cause death. Look, if you can’t allow a woman to make a decision on something as grave as abortion, then you can’t allow a woman to make a decision PERIOD.

In the end it is the woman’s choice to abort the baby, but both parents need to discuss the issue and what to do first

Of course. Discussion is important and I hope everyone that is considering abortion discusses it (as long as the discussion is one of mutual respect and maturity), but, ultimately, it is her decision.

I agreed up until you said “need to”.

So the father can’t have ANY say is what you are saying

There’s a difference between “need” and “can”.

What if the girl is mental and pierced the condom?

It happened to a friend and his girlfriend of the time. She wanted to put their relation up to a new level, without asking him. Good thing he realized it when putting the rubber on, or else shit would have hit the fan. He immediately asked her what was going on and she when batshit insane. I think he still hasn’t seen her since then. Good thing.

Anyways, the point is: What if she got pregnant? He would have had to take care of that kid, because he’s not a complete asshole, but still, it would have been a kid he never wanted.

Imonfire: If the girl is mental, why are you having sex with her? If she pierced the condom without your knowledge and she becomes pregnant and gives birth and keeps the baby, well, sux 2 b u; you shouldn’t have had sex with a mental case.

You’re on the hook for 18 years now (depending on laws of your locale) and I would hope that you would be a father to your kid.

Your lack of empathy displays ignorance and a lack of life experience

When no one dies it is just a fantasy and hiding behind that fantasy or rhetoric does nothing to improve or save peoples lives

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