Abortion

If you pay attention to the post you were replying to, pyjamasbox didn’t say it works always, he just said it is stupid not to use condom just because the rate of failure is 2%. However, going back a few posts I realized he was trying to justify that “there is no excuse to be pregnant”, which then is wrong because 2% of the people will have an excuse.

Anyway, he has a point. Obviously it is easier to say that everyone should use a condom than actually convincing everyone to use a condom.

Uh, what? That’s almost exactly what I said. :expressionless:

I guess I just stated the obvious, sorry :confused:

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maybe you should have been aborted?

You imply that he should have been or you wish that he had been aborted.

aren’t those two same?

people here think that abortion is normal thing so I suppose this is not an insult. while still in the belly he should have been just a useless vegetable and he wuldn’t have even understood that he was living so that there would have been nothing bad.

You wish that he would have been aborted. So, abortion is OK if it serves you.

Got it.

yeah you are right, In killing vegetable/parasite is nothing bad.you can even eat it!

Kang: Abortions For All
crowd: BOOOOOOOOO
Kodos: Abortions for none
crowd: BOOOOOOOOO
Kang: Abortions for some, little American flags for others
croowd: cheers and applause

He is being ironic. He means that, if you think abortion is normal, then you would be ok if it was with you.

Yes, I know, he should start talking seriously instead of treating everyone as morons.

My parents could have chosen to abort me and, in this case, I wouldn’t have existed. They could also have chosen not to have sex to conceive me in the first place and I wouldn’t exist. I obviously wouldn’t like if they had chosen either, but that doesn’t make neither of those wrong.

In other words: if having an abortion is evil because it impeaches someone of existing, then choosing not to have kids at all would also impeach the same person of existing and therefore it would also be evil. In this case, the right thing would be to have sex and kids as often as possible.

You’re referring to his facetious comments after my response.

But I think he made the original comment with malice toward Bolteh. I believe it was sincere and stated as a curse.

This is an excellent and graceful response to the potentiality argument.

Ugh - you know by now how his mind works. This is going to become “be fruitful and multiply”

:fffuuu:

Do you think Assassin believes he must have dozens of kids? I haven thought about this possibility.

I am not treating everyone as morons (except Piefish).

I understand what you want to say but already exists and will exist are different things.

I’d like to have dozen or even more but that depends on how I will be able to take care of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-L3JMk7C1A

Actually, you are throwing sarcastic and ironic comments everywhere, like if your arguments were so superior that ours sounded absurd. Even if that were true, that still would be wrong.

A human being does not exist yet until the mind is conscious. A fetus is not conscious, there is no human being inside a pregnant woman’s belly until 3 months of pregnancy.

And even after that the fetus still doesn’t understand death, killing it means nothing to it

humans who have not got consciousness mind are not humans?

Fix’d

BTW - You think that your responses are clever, but you really have no idea that most of them, if not all of them, are fallacious. I think that you’re a bright guy, but you think VERY badly. You seem to think that if a group of words or an idea makes sense to you or seems to support a proposition that you already hold as true, that the group of words must be correct and the proposition must be true. And this is bad thinking.

The argument you made here is petitio principii.

I love you, man - but I have to be honest with you - thinking this bad elicits a strong emotional response in me. I don’t know why. It’s sometimes a struggle for me to exercise patience, especially knowing that you’ll probably never be able to think using correct reason or logic - and that’s a frustrating and depressing idea to me.

We are all guilty of inadvertently committing fallacies or not recognizing them on occasion. But those that who have mistaken, adopted, and developed fallacies as their basic reasoning mechanism are, to me, insane - perhaps not insane by any clinical or medical definition - but hopelessly delusional.

And I view the intentional use of fallacy as malicious lying - deceit.

Maybe describing it as human is less of an addiquit word, how about self conscious being, It has no conscious so it doesn’t strive for life.
Whether or not it is human is out of the question.

It is hard for me to argue with someone on English, (since it isn’t my native) but I am trying my best and sometimes I can’t find the needed words so it is hard to understand my idea sometimes.

that was needed to fix here!

people in coma are things?

even a separate cell of the body strifes for life!

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