You’re kidding right?
… I am saying that it may be her body but it is THEIR child, whether or not it is the woman’s body is irrelavent. it is the couple’s child not the mother’s if the woman gets to choose what happens to their child then that isn’t far to the father
you’re good at this being wrong thing, aren’t you? it’s their child when it’s born. before then, it’s a fetus inside a woman’s body. it is a part of her, and if she wants to remove that part of her, the decision is hers and hers alone.
How the hell is it irrelevant? It’s 9 months of weightlifting, nausea and wild mood swings ended by a long period of intense pain, of course it’s bloody relevant!
What are you talking about? it is their child when they find out that she is pregnant, you can’t say that it is the woman’s child when it is in the form of an fetus it is still the father’s and mother’s child. as for the pain and weightlifting, that is what you get for wanting a child and it is what you get when you don’t use condoms, or birth control
It still means that the mother is affected far, far more than the father.
But they are both effected very much
it’s not a child if it’s not born yet. it’s a fetus inside the woman’s body. it’s a part of her. it feeds off her, and does not benefit her in any way. if she wants to remove it, SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO REMOVE IT. it’s not feeding off the man. he has no say.
and mistakes can happen, birth control isn’t 100% effective either.
you really think that “oh, you forgot a condom once, now your entire life will be ruined by a child you don’t want!” is fair?
“oh you forgot a condom once, now your entire life will be ruined by a child you don’t want!”? Are you being sarcastic or serious because I can’t tell. You are acting like a fetus is a nasty parasite inside the mother like an chest burster from the movie Aliens. The fact is that if the woman doesn’t want to abort and the child is born then it is the responsbility of both parents now whether or not the father wanted a child in the first place. And what if the Man wants a family? what then? Either or it isn’t fair to the Man
If the man wants kids but the woman doesn’t, sucks to be him, but it is her body. Maybe he should find a woman that wants kids…?
Also: If you don’t want an abortion, DON’T GET ONE.
Hence the breaing up of a couple because of abortion…that came out wrong, as long as 1 person wants an abortion then there will be an abortion
Well, let’s put it this way: Should you force a kid on a woman that doesn’t want one? Should we have forced pregnancies?
uhh, to some women, a fetus is a nasty parasite that they don’t want. if the woman wants an abortion, she can have an abortion. if she doesn’t, she doesn’t have to get one. THE MAN’S OPINIONS OR WANTS HAVE NO SAY IN HER DECISION. it is her body, she decides what to do with it. no outside influence is needed unless she wants it.
I do think its kinda ironic that you all are saying that the abortion of an unborn child doesn’t effect the man even if he really wants the child and he still should have no say in the abortion yet at the same time if it is the man that wants the abortion and not the woman then she is allowed to go through with the abortion and the man is forced to pay child support.
With your argument Fancy Pants the man should have no say in the matter at all so their for should also not be expected to pay child support if the baby that he wanted nothing to do with is born. Is that a fair assumption?
Once the baby is born, the man gains rights to the baby. Rights. And responsibilities.
but why after and not before shouldn’t he have SOME responsibilities during both times?
Not before because the fetus is part of the woman.
I know they won’t, but that’s because they’re fucking full blown retarded. It’s like somebody tells you not to shoot yourself in the foot, so you aim a gun down at your foot and keep pulling the trigger, never expecting a bullet to come out.
If your argument is “HURP DUERP THEY’RE NOT 100% EFFECTIVE”, then i feel sorry for you and your state of intelligence. The pill and condoms both are in the 98+ % effectiveness range when used correctly (which isn’t hard, you apes). If you’re going to tell me that the reason you refuse to use a condom or have your girlfriend take a pill is because there is a 2% chance she’ll get pregnant anyways, i have a shit load of magic beans to sell you.
And your opinion on the intelligence of others is worth exactly…what?
Awesome hypocritical post, considering in the exact post you’re replying to i had just quoted you mocking my intelligence. If you’re going to get mad over peoples counter opinions and tell them that their opinions are worthless, do not post in a debate thread.