uh, what? i’m pretty sure nobody gives a shit outside of a political discussion. i’m paranoid, but i’m not paranoid enough to think that the Illuminati are going to kick in my door and shoot me in the face for discussing my beliefs.
sounds like you’ve been watching too much t.v.
So…you came to a thread entitled “Your political party/views”…why?
He must be ashamed of his political belief.
Anarcho Voluntaryist. It seems to me that any political system is based on force and coercion, and is thus unethical and prone to extreme abuse.
I feel that, with anarchy, also comes force and coercion and, since there’s no way to stop it, the abuse is even more extreme. Just sayin’… 
Except that with anarchy we do not have a system that systematically controls every aspect of your life at the end of a gun. Just sayin.
JESUS! Why do we even have threads like this? All it does is piss people off, cuz they think there views are right. And then people cough (rot)(fooder cough start disliking you for sharing your feelings. Ya thats right (rot)(fodder I think your a big fat pussy.
Threads like this make me realize that everyone who joins this forum, instantly becomes a faggot.
Fuck this, Im out…
Third time then?
I thought Swampie was leaving the forum altogether until the mod was out…
Also, Diabeetus: What’s to stop the someone from coercing you at the end of the gun and nothing in place to punish that person afterwards? Also, systematically control every aspect of our lives? WTH?
Nothing is stopping them except me, the same as now. And yes, every aspect of our lives are controlled, from the money we earn, additions we may want to put on our homes, the cars we drive, the food we eat, the radio we listen to, the air we breath, what we do with our money, what we put into our bodies. What part of your life is not regulated and controlled by laws?
Well, just as a quick for-example: I can choose which movie I want to see in the theater or choose not to go to the theater at all. I can choose to eat pizza tonight or go to McDonald’s or even eat a salad. I can go to play a video game or watch TV or sleep.
How is this “control”?
That is an illusion of choice however. You can chose what movie you want to see, but the movies are regulated for content, the money you pay for the movie, or tv or food is taxed. Hell, in dictatorships you can have some choice of food or entertainment. Is that freedom?
And yet, in anarchic or nihilistic systems, you still don’t have the kind of “freedom” you’re suggesting. In fact, it’s worse.
Anarchism and Nihilism are not interchangable or even relatable. I am talking about Anarchism in it’s actual policial meaning i.e. voluntaryism. Simply put that all relationships must be of a voluntary nature, that force is not acceptable. So no, it is not much worse. People will still try to use force, but the difference is that under our current system you cannot defend yourself against force and violence when it is brought by the state. In fact, you must fund said force to be used against yourself and others. You must pay for your own prisons, your own fines, you must pay for the bombs dropped on children in Pakistan. And if you don’t? You are imprisoned by men with guns.
This is exactly what voluntaryism addresses and hopes to fix. It may not work, but what we have now doesn’t work either.
bitches dont know about anarchism (!= anarchy)
:ninja:
An excellent example of “anarchy”. People peacfully coexisting and acting responsibly in chaotic systems, with better results that the state can muster. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi0meiActlU
That ignores, unfortunately, human nature. It might work in small cases but, like communism, on the large scale, it don’t work.
No political system is perfect and no political system works in every case, though, so I’m not going to berate you for it. I just happen to think a constitutionally-limited democratic-republic system is the best system.
I sort of agree with Volker Pispers’ view on the history of terrorism.
For your convenience:
Dunno whether this qualifies as a political view, maybe rather as a view on politics?
In Sweden, there are 8 parties in the parliament, either independent or in the “alliance” (a liberal-conservative coalition). These parties are:
Left:
V (left party, socialist with some marxist influence)
S (Worker’s party, social democrats)
MP (Green party, social liberals)
Centre:
SD (Sweden democrats, nationalist)
Right:
C (Centre party, liberal)
FP (People’s party, conservative)
M (Moderate party, liberal-conservative)
KD (Christian democrats, conservative)
Sweden is currently being governed by the right wing coalition C, FP, M and KD. Sweden is in a tricky political situation right now, because every party in the parliament is opposed to the newly elected SD, but SD still has an advantage. Despite our government having four parties, it still doesn’t have the majority of the seats in the parliament, and neither does S, V and MP which usually agrees with eachother. SD can just pick a side when voting in the parliament and it will win. That’s why the left wing opposition has to compromise with the right wing when filing bills.
S has been the biggest party in Sweden (in terms of seats in the parliament) since 1914, and have had a very powerful political position in Sweden. Between 1936 and 1976 they didn’t lose any elections at all, in fact, sometimes S alone had the majority of the seats in the parliament, so it didn’t need any support from V (MP didn’t exist then). Later years, the bourgeoise parties have adapted some of S’s notions and have been more successful, 2006 they won the election, and got re-elected in 2010.
I am a social democrat. That doesn’t necessarily mean I always share my opinion with S, just the basic ideology. I think workers should have protection from greedy employers that tries to exploit them. I think people should have the right to free education and healthcare. I think people are of equal value regardless of race, social status, gender etc. I think this should be financed by taxes. But I also believe in compromising, you must sometimes compromise with your enemy to achieve a goal both can agree with to some extent. I believe in monopolised alcohol stores owned by the municipality or state, too keep prices up so that less alcohol is consumed, since alcohol is a big health problem in many countries. I believe in Worker’s unions and that the government should take care of essential infraestructure like hospitals, courts, fire stations, police departments, schools, libraries, buses, trains, roads, museums and so on. I believe in social democracy.
we have not had a government for almost 300 days
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