World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor

https://www.wowhead.com/news=223446/warlords-of-draenor-what-we-know-so-far

I know, I know; World of Warcraft is quite mundane and boring and turning into the MMO version of Call of Duty. This expansion however does look fairly interesting, considering they’re adding a lot of new stuff in.

The main thing (imo) they’re adding are RTS elements. I’d rather have Warcraft 4 since I’m a real RTS lover, but this could turn out to be intriguing.

So they’re going full circle?

I’m truly excited, I love Warcraft. Mists of Pandaria was great despite what some say, it WASN’T about Chinese bears alone, but Trolls, Titans, Old Gods and about the faction conflict.
For WoD, I think they should have done it on a new engine and called it WoW2 or something, the premise seems fit for a new start.

For the whole RTS element, I didn’t expect that in my wildest dreams, they truly have outdone themselves this time. If it’s at least half as good in practice as it sounds, then it will be revolutionary.
New models also nice. Pre-destruction Outland looks… lively, so nice too.
All in all, my wallet is ready.

You’re giving Blizzard way more credit than they deserve.

Yeah, they haven’t really been Blizzard since shortly after the merger with Activision or whatever. Most of the people that it made it good are long gone.
It’s basically ended up as businessmen with good legacy products. Although SC2 seemed pretty well received. Don’t have it myself though. I dunno.

Nevertheless, I’d love to see a Warcraft MMORTS, with a single player campaign stretching at least WC1-3x, with a follow up. Provided they do it well.

I can see this could end up either as more lore rape, or a completely awesome plot.

@Jack, then you must by chance know of another MMO which did something like that already. At least I haven’t heard about a MMO with fully implemented personal base that can be managed even offline (likely using a mobile application I guess)
@Nerd, why not completely awesome lore rape?
@bur, yeah, I may be overestimating Blizzard, but you underestimate them friend. It’s not that bad, they are actually listening to feedback. Both expansions look above average-decent, Heartstone is fun and I don’t have an opinion on HotS

The worst thing about WoW imo. is that each expansion they change the stats, talents and spells. One more or less has to learn again the rotation and stuff each time. But it seems that (finally) in WoD the talents stay mostly as they are now in MoP just with another lvl 100 tier added, which is good.
But they have mentioned something about removing Hit and Expertise from the game, that’s dumbing it down too much, like come on…

Glad to see they’re finally updating the player character models. They’ve been the same for what, over a decade now?

Are you sure you know what an MMO is? There’re loads of games that are under the MMO-RTS category and also allow you to build bases and sometimes huge empires. Age of Empires, for example.

Age of Empires is classified as RTS on wiki, not MMO. It means massively multiplayer online, but my bad, I was referring specifically to MMORPG.
@Pyro, The game is 9 years old, how can it be over a decade now?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Empires_Online
Genre(s) MMORTS

That’s still well overdue for an update.

On a more entertaining note, the WoW community is not quite tearing itself asunder.

There will always be people around to ruin your little if any enjoyment left you have for your favorite things. Negativity all around for nothing. I bet 80% of those who hate are just trolls and haven’t even played the game. 15% are that kind of people that aren’t satisfied with anything no matter what and just 5% have legit reasons.

It’s the same old community reaction to a WoW expansion: “omg, this will make the game fun again”, only to have everyone bugger off again after a few months because Blizzard doesn’t realise that a major patch once every 4-5 months isn’t keeping things fresh.

I don’t think a lot of people realize it, but they’re actually improving things slowly. I remember playing vanilla WoW recently (private server) and the experience was quite honestly horrendous. The quests were repetitive, the directions they gave you were obnoxious, etc etc. So they do improve things, but mostly things that most people won’t notice.

Honestly, every time I get one of those 7-day-trials things (I used to play WoW, like 7 years ago), it’s just the same old grind over and over. There isn’t anything that’s really different or new.

The world is still just one big mess of static geometry, the only interactions are with NPCs and quests and shit, which is all pre-determined.

I actually hope that TESO (with the help of the already massive TES fanbase) will be the one to dethrone wow, because wow has been the king of MMOs for far too long.

Not sure what you mean. What is missing in there for you? Isn’t every MMORPG a grind fest?

Probably, haven’t played very many. WoW just doesn’t feel alive at all anymore, to me. Of course, the couple of hours a year of free trial I play aren’t that much to go by, admitedly.

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