Windows 8

Remember, this is nowhere near close to the finished product, not even an alpha, I believe, so a lot of features are either incomplete or not even present yet.

Actually, what you get with the “Desktop” tile app is a bit different than the “Classic windows mode” we are used to (the most noticeable difference being the Start button that works differently).

This post over at neowin.net shows an easy way (and there is also a regedit method mentioned) to go to the Classic mode and forgo the Metro UI entirely.

Thank you for this. I have installed over Win7 and have decided to try and learn the new UI, however if I can’t I may need to switch back to the classic style.

Dude, this is an early build, why are you already switching to it over Windows 7? At least wait for the later Beta/RTM versions to switch over.

I Virtual-Box’d it to quench my curiosity. Curiosity quenched. I can wait until it comes out to try it know. :slight_smile:

I already did a full switch to windows 8. As for getting out of the metro apps just move the mouse to the bottom left corner of the screen to show the new launch menu. You don’t need to use the task manager.

Also I have set the reg flags so now I have a windows 8 that is just windows 7 with a slightly new skin and a faster boot time. Thing is stable as a rock for me, and just about every program I have thrown at it will run. Even some system “hacks” that I got working by just setting system compatibility to windows 7.

Strangely my favorite new feature is that when you press del it just removes the files without prompt. Makes cleaning much faster (especially when combined with the arrow keys)

Also patched the langs file and removed most of the desktop beta branding. Now my primary os until the final beta.

So far it’s worked well enough. I just wanted to experience it hands on, and didn’t have enough hard drive space for a dual boot.

You forgot Windows 2000…

Fuck me, I hated Windows 98, shitting shit would crash all the damn time. When XP came out and I switched to that, it was like a fucking blessing from the heavens. Never looked back again.

So far, and I’m running on an extremely limited Virtual Box account, I have had one error which has prevented me from using a program that I use frequently: The Vortec IRC client.

“The procedure entry point mciExecute could not be located in the dynamic link library C:\Program Files (x86)\Vortec IRC\vortec.exe”

I know it’s a developer preview, but this is a program I use fairly regularly and it’s a simple program. I don’t know how the other programs I use would fare which do a lot more, such as video editing and 3D animation… I’ll wait to pass judgment on Windows 8 until it’s ready for primetime, though.

98 or 98 se?

SE, but I think it was a problem with my RAM anyway, however since XP had much better memory management, it very rarely crashed. I could keep my computer on for a whole week without it crashing, while with 98 I was lucky if it didn’t crash more than twice every day.

timed it with a stop watch to get an exact time. took 16 seconds to boot into windows…slightly slower than I thought but still not much slower than his 2 SSD raid especially since I timed from boot not just from the windows is loading screen…

and software compatibly and stability and utility oh wait windows is better in just about anyway bar user interface which is a preference thing.

First of all… osx is just slightly modified Linux with different ui.

I for one have yet to make OSX lock up in the 6 years I’ve been using Macs (I never even had to cmd-alt-esc (OSX’ ctrl-alt-del), so if you have ever had stability issues on your OSX, it’s probably due to faulty hardware, so bring your Mac to a store, or check the hardware on your Hackintosh, bro.

No idea where the utility argument comes from and I don’t have a clue what utility software Windows ships with these days, but what I have in Utility folder on OSX: Activity Monitor, all the installers and uninstallers of all the software that includes them, Airport setup (wireless Apple shite), Applescript Editor (BAT-ish stuff), Audio and MIDI setup tool, Bluetooth tools, ColorSync tools, Console (shows everything the OS did or is doing), some more color calibration tools, Disk Utility (partitioning, formatting, cleaning, troubleshooting, repairing, whatever disk stuff), Grab (whole bunch of different screenshot options), some more color shite, some setup tools for mobile devices, Java tools, Keychain stuff, Migration Assistant (Win -> Mac migration), Network tools, bunch of PodCast tools, full system info, Terminal (the DOS thingy from windows, but white instead of black), Voice tools and X11 for m00 network stuff.

Not sure what more anyone could need in an OS like MacOS, but I sure as hell haven’t had to use 90% of those tools myself.

And compatibility… Naw man, Windows can’t run OSX apps, Windows is incompatible! This one argument here is just plain silly. Compatibility goes both ways, but if there’s an application for Windows that does something, I guarantee you there’s an application for OSX that does the same shit (someone will probably look for something that only exists on Windows), but probably has a different name. Now is the time where you can say “But what about this game!”, well you’re right… ish, but that’s pretty much just agreeing with the post that you disagreed on to begin with. Also, odds are the game will run on OSX anyway, either natively (Source games, Blizzard games, Telltalegames) or through wine wrappers.

However, I personally don’t use or want any software that I can get on Windows and that does not exist in any form on OSX.

The day I switch back to Windows, is the day Apple decides to turn OSX into iOS Desktop, but considering how Windows 8 is an even bigger mobile cesspool than Lion, I think I’ll stay with OSX until Apple goes out of business (and even then I’ll probably keep using the last installment for years after that).

Honestly, the only arguments that are valid in the Windows vs OSX debate are: Macs are fucking expensive and overpriced (fuck yea, they are… But so is a Lamborghini, but it’s fucking worth it), the UI is fucking shit (opinion), one button mice (if you ignore the past 10 years or so) and Apple are corporate pigs (capitalism wins)!

As long as 8 isn’t as fail as Windows Vista and as long as it doesn’t require 800gig of drive space to run and as long as it doesn’t try and prevent me from doing anything with it’s “I can’t let you do that Dave” crap I will be happy.

OS X is a really nice operating system. I’ve been using it at work since February, and once you learn your way around it, it’s much more user-friendly than Windows. Oh, and I’m a Programmer/Analyst, so the built-in UNIX architecture is a godsend. I might consider switching to OS X at home if it didn’t have game and mod support issues. Oh, and dat fucking price tag, holy fuckballs. If I have a choice between two cheese graters, and both of them grate cheese, but one of them has chrome plating and diamond-edged cutting surfaces and costs eight times as much, I’m going to go with the cheaper one, thanks very much.

A better analogy would be that Macs are like top of the line Mercedes Class S with all the extras included while the PC is a cheaper standard model Class S that you can pimp out all you want.

P.S.: anal-orgy lolol

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