Windows 7 VS. OSX

#201

I think this is an interesting analogy.

I would say that Windows is an MMA fighter. Does a lot of everything and can compete is pretty much any arena. It can sometimes lose in individual style battles like server boxing, but as a whole package it’s the most well rounded.

OSX is like a hollywood action fighter. May not be all that functional in a business sense, but is very popular in entertainment sector as it is capable of creating something interesting and looking good while doing it. Not so good with kids though as they don’t understand it’s artistic soul what with all their games and such…though it has had some small game roles to gain credibility.

Linux is like the enigmatic superweight boxer. In it’s given performance area it is very effective, but it’s not very useful in real world fights, and not easy enough to understand or well rounded on the whole be popular with the entertainment industry, or the casual crowd.

I think I lost the analogy and got confused somewhere in there :stuck_out_tongue:

#202

Nice characterisation there. How about this one:

Windows is for dumb sheep who can’t be bothered looking outside the Microsoft box. Linux is for those who want to design their own box, and Macs are for people who want their box to look nice and to be sleeker and faster than the Microsoft equivalent.

I haven’t seen any evidence of your tech support anecdote, and I suspect there is none. Yours, like many in this thread, are fundamentally unquantifiable. And mostly fallacious.

I don’t even want to begin addressing the rest of your rant.

You misunderstand me. I was talking about having a heap of windows open on your desktop, not having a lot of icons there. And cf Apple dock and Apps folder.

Look, I don’t have enough time right now to make a list, but believe me, I will be back. Read this thread from start to finish, and your question will have been answered. But then again, you didn’t appreciate the bleeding obvious the first time, so I really have no desire to have my arguments ignored a second time.

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I…just…give up. iPhoto is a photo organising program. HOW CAN IT BE SHIT?

Add to that the fact that its bloated, fat and slow, then you’ve just about got Windows to a T.

#203

Uh, no on both the fitting windows, and the reference to most MMA fighters.
Listen, I can understand that you prefer The Mac OS over the Windows OS, but making silly claims like that doesn’t help your credibility. Same goes on the opposite side as well.

#204

fix’d :3

#205

IMO the two OSes are very different in purpose, Windows is built to be a platform (as Microsoft are essentially a platform company), this means allowing others to build on your system is paramount. MacOSX is built to be a complete computing package.

This is reflected in the level of developer support is provided from each company - MS have a phenomenal amount of APIs, documentation, partnership programs and they work their arse of ensuing backwards compatibility with a new OS release. Apple don’t, you turn a Mac on, and most things are their waiting for you… you don’t need anyone else! While apple do have some developer channels, they are very selective and protective of their system, and if they build a new feature which breaks your software - it’s your fault, not theirs.

Being a developer, and a user who likes my computer to operate how I want it to, with what I want it to, I favour Windows.

#206

That reminds me of my analogy about OSes and cars. I need to find it.

#207

Too bad you bought a mac instead. :3

#208

how many people here who are keep bashing linux have actually used linux? There are a lot of linux distributions that are very simple to use and require no technical expertise at all…

cough Ubuntu cough Mint cough Mandriva cough

#209

I sometimes wonder the same thing about the mac-bashers. How many of them would have actually used OSX or even the computers to get a clear picture of what it is and what it isn’t. And I actually mean “use”, not just “I saw it on a computer at school once and the guy using it wasn’t playing games on it”.

I don’t know Linux at all tbh, I just know it by name and going by what people tell me, it’s not something for me. I just made the WWE statement to get a fury of Linuxians over me for lols :<

#210

I could ask the same thing of you.

I use Windows VISTA every day for video editing, graphic editing, 3D animation, movies, Internetting, games, web design, budgeting, story writing, webhosting…

It’s not a “I saw Windows on a computer at school once and the guy was using it to play games.” It’s much more.

And, since I bought the computer, I had one, count 'em, ONE, blue screen…caused by a poorly-written piece of software that I quickly got rid of and didn’t really need anyway. (No, it wasn’t a Microsoft product.)

And, if you’d get your head out of your arse (or is it up Steve Jobs’?), you’d know that it’s a STABLE operating system…if you use it correctly.

What you’re essentially saying is that you think cars are bad because stupid people crash them. Sorry, bub. It don’t work that way. You add things to cars that make them unstable, you have an unstable car…because of what you added, not because the car itself was inherently unstable.

Give your attitude a rest. You’re only fooling yourself and making a fool of yourself in the process.

#211

Also with the right PC hardware you can overclock and get more performance for your money.

Macs either don’t overclock at all, or lose their precious stability because it’s not supported by the hardware.

#212

That is all. :slight_smile:

#213

Vista? Oh dear, that’s an entirely different can of worms. Windows 7 fixed a lot of the stability and performance issues with Vista, such that it was actually useable on my old HP (whereas Vista was such a performance whore that it took an impossibly long time just to start up).

I’m not trying to say that Windows 7 isn’t substantially faster than Vista; I’m just saying that its still nowhere near as fast or as seamless in use as OS X.

And just by the by, saying “I’ve only had one bluescreen” doesn’t change the fact that I’ve had hundreds, including a recent problem in 7 with my graphics card that I have yet to resolve (not that I have much motivation for doing so since I’m on my mac). On the whole, Windows is more unstable than Mac, but its not a particularly large reason for my switch to OS X.

#214

Here is a point where you should really back up your statements with actual numbers. if you make claims like this, you should really have correlating data. Have you any evidence that two machines ( one running 7 the other running slow leopard ) with the same specs have noticeably different numbers? Like boot times, cold loading a word processing document, or multi platform browser? Your claims could be true or false without backing data. Right now it seems you are stating opinion like fact…again.

#215

You really help your position with that patronizing and condescending tone. :slight_smile:

And OSX can’t do everything that I want a computer to do without workarounds (which kind of kills the “seamless” claim) that are kind of iffy; I kind of feel like I’m handcuffed when I use Apple hardware. I’m sure there are those that bring out the workarounds (Parallels, CrossOver, etc), but I don’t want to have to use these workarounds just to do what I want on my computer.

Sure, it might be faster (the jury is out on that one; I’m seeing reviews that put them at equal), but if it doesn’t do what I want it to do, why should I change?

#216
#217

I’ll make it perfectly clear: I know the post isn’t directed at me but I want to respond anyways to make sure there’s no misunderstandings. I mostly stay absent from this thread because I haven’t used Mac OS… at all. I’ve never felt a need to. I can do everything on my Windows 7 PC quickly and without hassle. You’ll notice the few times I posted here, I didn’t bash the Mac OS at all. Everything I have ever wanted from an OS I can get from Windows 7. All major photo/video editing programs run perfectly, I can quickly navigate the OS with ease, sometimes running upward of 20 windows (many of them having sub-windows) and having no issues finding and doing what I want without any slowdown. Sure Windows may be hard to navigate at first, but once you get used to it and know the keyboard shortcuts, everything is a snap. Mac OS may be great, but I know that it can’t do all of this and also run games without some crazy workaround (what can I say? I’m a gamer). It’s a major feature loss for Mac OS, and one that you can’t say is rivaled in the Windows OS.

That being said; I would like to say that I’m glad you keep a cool head, Bolteh and put up a good debate. Just don’t turn into loony636 :stuck_out_tongue:

#218

To be honest, windows maximizing when dragged to the top or taking up half the screen when dragged to the side annoys the fuck out of me. Sometimes I just want a window to sit at the top or at the side without changing the size :expressionless:

#219

Control Panel > Ease of Access > Change how your mouse works

Check:
Prevent windows from being automatically arranged when moved to the edge of the screen

Problem solved.

#220

Yep, I do it on every windows 7 machine I use.

Along with changing the start menu size, disabling UAC and disabling shortcuts like sticky keys etc.

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