Fully aware this is my second thread, and my second thread with “vs” in the title. However this time it is warranted. I’ve been reading up on the whole DOTA2 trademarking hostilities and I gotta admit I’m leaning more towards Blizzard being in the right. I mean if Blizzard came along and for instance (for example purposes) tried to trademark counterstrike, I could see valve getting just as pissed off. I see it as a bit of a dickhead move, which is a shame because I love valve. Just wondering others thoughts.
Dota was never licensed by Blizzard so I don’t know what you’re getting at.
Dota wasn’t made by Blizzard, I don’t think; it was just a popular community mod.
Anyways, they’re my two favorite gaming companies, though they have recently been disappointing me – especially Blizzard.
Sure Blizz can be butt hurt but they (as far as I could find in a quick search) have no rights to DotA, IceFrog and the rest of the team has, and now he works for valve. He was the last active in the team and thus he/valve if anyone should have the rights to the title.
Valve hired the Counterstrike crew and bought the rights to the name and gameplay.
Blizzard did not hire the DOTA crew and did not buy rights to the name and gameplay.
Seems like your comparison is invalid to me.
Blizzard is getting butthurt over the “Defense of the Ancients” part of Dota.
They have rules for their Wacraft 3 map editor. They own the mods created on it.
Just the thing that the map was called Defense of the Ancients and Valve didn’t trademark that but Dota as a word.
Valve wins.
Then what is DotA if they can’t say its Defense of the Ancients?
exactly…
just “dota”
D-fence of The Ancients
Defense of the Asians probably
Just “Dota”. That’s why it’s wrong to say DotA 2.
How did Valve disappoint you?
Take a long, long, lengthy, maybe even delayed guess.
The next Half Life installment? Well, understandable. Although the game will sure be better because of its long development time.
Nah, according to EA 2 years is all you need to develop great games with great endings. Valve is just super lazy.
If they think so.
edit: I took your comment too serious, silly me.
I C WAT U DID
I’ll give you a short history of DotA.
-It began as a custom map made by Eul (now works at Valve) for Warcraft III, influenced by Aeon of Strife from Starcraft. When the expansion pack came along (The Frozen Throne), Eul did not update the map to the new version.
-Then came Guinsoo (now works at Riot Games), he updated the game for the expansion pack and added some heroes/items. His version was very buggy and imbalanced. Guinsoo stopped updating the game and joined Riot, along Pendragon (the administrator of the former DotA website), to work on League of Legends.
-Back then the map was nothing more than a fun map. No one took it seriously because of its bugs, until IceFrog started working on the game. He remade most of the heroes and items, added new ones, fixed the balance and all the bugs. The popularity of the map began rising ever since.
-Valve hired IceFrog to create Dota 2, the main reasons behind the sequel are: The warcraft editor was limited, the game had unfixable bugs, it lacked very important features (reconnect, VoIP…), it needs dedicated servers, and graphics overhaul.
-Valve trademarked the word Dota 2 and Dota 3 (not Defence of the Ancients). To fight Valve, Riot tradmarked DotA-Allstars LLC after three days and sold it to Blizzard later.
Blizzards’ argument is that the map belong to its modding community, although we all know that Activision wants it for it self. Blizzard never supported DotA 1, the map that tripled WCIII sales, except for a really small update to increase the Map Size Limit to 8MB.
I played DotA for 5 years, and I’m a long time member of its community. I cannot tell you how graceful we are to have Valve work on this game and we do not consider it theft. Also Valve will not ruin the game as they did with TF2. (It will include cosmetic items that actually fit in the atmosphere of the game).
If it’s only “Dota” then why put a weird & meaningless word as a title? At least Half-life have an explanation
Watch the rest of the series as well
I’d say BF3 have a better ending than that, and it’s released one year after the last title
Winner: Riot Games