Over here = Belgium.
I just checked my payment history to be sure, and the average I paid at the beginning of the year is $478.87, after 2 semesters, there’s another average of $124.11. So for subscription alone, I paid an average of $602.98 for an entire year. Excluding additional costs of books/transport/food.
This was college btw, my brother went to university, and he paid a bit more (but got a scholarship, since he’s disabled (paralyzed legs).
Well, my parents seem pretty pissed.
When my mom picked me up from football, she said, and I quote, “I used to like him [Obama], but now I hate his guts. Forcing his beliefs on us. He should be shot!”
Jesus, and I always thought she was pretty liberal! I can’t imagine how pissed my Fox News watching grandma is!
“They’re supposed to cover like Fox News, fair and balanced.”
lolwut?
What’s the difference between college and uni for you? Over here they’re synonomous.
I didnt skim at all, but you made it sound like the republicans are responsible for those little nuances.
I have not heard this. Please offer source?
The Senate version of the health care bill has been passed by both houses of congress. It’s going to be signed into law with all the deals and kickbacks that right-wing Senate Democrats demanded in exchange for their votes.
What is going to be voted on this week is a ‘fix’ bill that, when the President signs it, will amend the Senate health care bill to bring it in line with the House’s health care bill, removing all the sweetheart deals that are currently in the Senate bill.
Every Republican Senator will vote against the ‘fix,’ just like every Republican voted against it in the House. They will be voting against removing the sweetheart deals they campaign against, just to spit in Obama’s eye. If you really think Republicans are going to put country before Party, there’s nothing I can do to convince you - fortunately we only have to wait a day or two to find out what happens.
College offers courses for professional life, ie. if you study languages at college, you actually study to become a translator or writer or whatever. At the university, you get in depth information about certain fields, ie. if you study languages at university, you actually study to become a researcher or whatever that studies languages.
University requires a higher level of high school certificates than college (ie. college is for dummies, university is for pros).
But the last few years, they started crossfading with each other, so the differences aren’t as prominent any more.
I’m currently going to college in Belgium, the entry fee was ~500 euros, because of a family-related issue i didn’t get a scholarship this year, then there’s all the equipment, which adds up to ~2500 euros, that’s a laptop + add-ons, books, and the software.
On top of that, i need to rent a place here since it’s a 2 hour train ride at best. Add onto that about 2000 euros for the place to stay at, plus paying for the train, food and drinks, and anything else i may need to pay for.
So about 5500 euros up until now, for this year alone. And then our course’s coordinator had a big speech today about how school in America that do this course cost tons, compared to the ‘measly’ 500 euro entry cost here.
He obviously forgot about all the additional costs, and he failed to see the bigger picture; just because it’s cheaper here doesn’t means it’s cheap.
I laughed many times just two minutes into the video.
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“Where is this, in the bill, that people can find this.”
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Dumbasses.
Edit: LOL@Ameristan
I love the hippie that thinks Jesus will heal him. That’s fine, but protesting a bill that will help people get REAL help is just hilarious!
I didn’t fail to see the big picture. I studied Multimedia design and Digital Arts, so having a computer was a requirement… And guess what, I had a computer, so no need to get an additional laptop when you can use the computers at school freely and transfer between those computers and my personal computer through USB-sticks. There we have $700-1200 saved. Both schools also offered student licenses for the software used (which boiled down to an additional $70-90 for a 3 years.
The biggest additional cost for me was books and copies. I think that pretty much came down to $150 the first year and $50-60 for the next few years.
And as I said, I didn’t need to rent a place because I live in Ghent and both schools were in Ghent.
Belgian colleges/universities are only expensive if you want them to be. You obviously wanted them to be expensive, I didn’t.
I wasn’t talking about you, i was talking about my coordinator. It’s not like we had a choice either, it’s the only school that has game design, so they have a monopoly on it in Belgium anyway.
IMO, we need to either resurrect Tommy Duglas, or Convince everyone in the US to watch Sicko.
And besides, why is America, a rich country, still in the dark ages when it comes to healthcare? Why are you trusting corporations with your lives, while the government YOU control is not trusted to do the same?
And why can you not do what the UK did directly after it had the [COLOR=‘Red’]SHIT BOMBED OUT OF IT IN WWII?
More importantly to some, Cuba has a better healthcare system. Are you going to let the “[COLOR=‘Red’]commies” beat you?
€2000 rent, Solokiller? You must live oep de meir 
Because a lot of Americans don’t trust or like the government and prefer to make their own choices in life then have the government try and take control and force it’s beliefs on them.
:meh:… that was a joke, stating what would be happening were this a perfect world. :freeman:
o.0… the government is going to FORCE people to get abortions now?
And hey, if you don’t want to pay taxes for a health care system that gives medical aid to EVERYBODY who needs it, you can always expatriate to a second (wait, no… they’ve got that too)… well… a THIRD world country right 
??..
… and on the other end of the spectrum… wouldn’t outlawing abortions entirely qualify as somebody forcing their beliefs on others also?
as to the point of not trusting the government… Can’t argue with you there, they’re politicians. Lying and deception and misinformation is their JOB!.. whichever side wins you can be sure both sides are up to their ears in their own horseshit
No, but they are forcing everyone to get Health Care.
It might not make sense to “hate” that, but I’ve definitely noticed that people tend to dislike being forced against their will to do something whether they initially wanted to or not. Especially when the one doing the forcing is a government body that has never given any reason to be trusted.
Dino I already explained why they are “forcing everyone to get health care.”
They are preventing insurance companies from denying coverage to someone who was sick before he got insurance.
Right now, if you have employer-based insurance and you’re diagnosed with cancer, you leave your job, and you’ll never get insurance again because you can’t buy insurance on a pre-existing illness.
Bad, right? Well, the government is making that illega. But if it’s illegal to deny coverage to someone who’s already sick, nobody would buy insurance until they are on their way to the emergency room, it would destroy the entire privatized health care system (is that a bad thing??). Therefore, the gov’t needs to ensure that nobody cheats, by mandating that everyone get covered.
So, simple choice. You believe in the free market, you accept that nobody with a pre-existing condition gets health insurance. Or, you accept that free-market health care is a broken system, and learn what is being done to fix it.
You mean things like paying taxes (for things like public education ya know) and paying your bills on time and driving on the correct side of the road?
I know kids hate cleaning their room but they enjoy their room a lot more once it’s done
If you want complete control, how do you think the state of your country would be if there was only private education available only to those who could afford it?
An educated populace is a productive populace, and so is a healthy and financially secure populace.
I have a few questions. Actually, my parents are the ones with a question, but I’m hopping that someone here will put it in better words than I can.
Exactly how much more money will my parents have to spend on taxes with this new bill? And, by comparison, how much will my parents have to pay had this bill not pass? And which one do you think we will benefit from more in the long run, tax wise.
I heard that the bill will actually decrease the deficit by $138 billion over the next ten years, with the total savings over the next 20 years being $1.7 trillion.
So… your thoughts?
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How much (combined) do they make? Do they have insurance now, through their employer or privately? How many kids do they have? How many are on their insurance plan?
Honestly don’t care…
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