US Health Care Bill!

This isn’t so much for debating about health care (although it’s unavoidable). I’m starting this thread because you can watch the vote right now on CSPAN.
Basically, if the House of Representatives passes this vote, we as Americans get some basic health care reforms that we’ve been waiting 3 decades for. There’s also most likely going to be a minor riot on the national mall as a few thousand teapartiers pitch a hissy fit that the vote didn’t go their way.
Check it out.

https://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/03/house_health_care_debate.php?ref=fpa

If the bill passes, I’d be happy to welcome Americans to the rest of the civilized world.
If it doesn’t, then, oh well. Enjoy not being able to afford healthcare next time you break a limb.

this whole thing is really depressing

I, for one, am supremely pissed off by this bill…though not for the reasons that many people (including those in the MSM) believe:

I am pissed off at this bill because it does too little. I’m pissed off that it’s not real reform. I’m pissed off that we started on the right and made more and more concessions to the Right even though none of them had any intention of passing anything Obama or the Democrats put forth. I’m pissed that it took so long with infighting on the Democratic side (federal funding for abortions is already illegal, you asshats!).

That said, I hope the bill passes and then they begin nearly right away with fixing the problems in it.

It’s going to pass - It’s actually only basic reforms, it doesn’t really bring us up to par with other 1st-world countries. Better than nothing.

Do you at least get the option to have the government pay for it/some of it?

uhhm that would be socialest like hitler…

Yes. The government will be providing subsidies if you can’t afford to pay for it yourself.

I have little faith in the bill passing.

Americans tend to shun the word “socialism”, and this bill smells of socialism, even if it’s only a slight oder.

Except that this bill is the furthest thing for socialism as you can possibly get.

I hope you’re watching CSPAN Bolteh. The pre-vote debate is going on right now, the actual vote should be within 15-20 minutes.

Ummm…I don’t think Hitler was a socialist, Hercule…

lol

Indeed, he was a racist.

On topic: I really hope this bill gets passed. I want more 1st world countries on this planet. More equality basicly.

Well, I’m not watching, and I haven’t really followed the entire health-care-debate the past few months. All I know is that Obama wanted to introduce a proper health care system, and that health care is pretty socialist as far as terminology goes.

But as I said, I have no idea how the current bill looks like, I just know that a lot of people still hate it (and oppose the mere thought of having health care).

has obama ever not been a corporatist pandering farto tho. can ya even get elected without kinda sucking. diddnt seem like there was any real effort to get a proper national health thing goin

Hm. What, in your opinion, is “socialist” about this bill or any of the other versions thereof?

The way I feel about it is simple physics, it’s impossible for anything going in one direction to immediately go in the opposite direction. It needs to slow down & stop first. I think today’s vote represents that stopping moment, and when it’s over there will be momentum in the opposite direction (proper national health care).

I’m surprised that someone hasn’t posted in this thread to accuse Obama of being a socialist-commie-nazi Hitler worshiper.
“deyr gonna pull da plug on grandma and burn jews an take ma guns and jawbs!”

EDIT: OMG NEVA MIND HE JUST DID LOOK AT MY SIG YIPEE!!!

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