Upgrading my friend's PC

So my friend is upgrading his PC.

He’s probably getting i7-2600 3.4Ghz and 8GB 1600MHz RAM.

So my question is, what gpu and what motherboard does he need? And how much watt? Brand for the power supply?

Thanks

oh yeah, budget all-inclusive is around 4-500€ ideally
oh, and maybe it’s better to get an i5 instead of an i7?

Edit: All I really need to know is, with a budget of ~€500:
-Is it worth investing in i7, or will i5 do?
-RAM has already been decided.
-Should he go with nVidia or ATI?
-Which gpu of either brand is high-end but still not all that expensive? (~€150 ideally)
-Which motherboard is compatible with these parts, and is of a decent quality? (~€60-100)
-How much power will this need?

Whatever you choose, just make sure the ram you choose is in the QVL (or list of compatible modules) of the motherboard, or you might end up with a mobo that blue-screens constantly because it doesnt like the ram…

…ddr3 mobos, regardless of make are quite picky with their ram…

Finally, what´s the budget? since now nothing stops from suggesting 4xGTX580 :stuck_out_tongue:

Is that budget including, or in addition to, the CPU and RAM?

Including.

All I really need to know is, with a budget of ~€500:
-Is it worth investing in i7, or will i5 do?
-RAM has already been decided.
-Should he go with nVidia or ATI?
-Which gpu of either brand is high-end but still not all that expensive? (~€150 ideally)
-Which motherboard is compatible with these parts, and is of a decent quality? (~€60-100)
-How much power will this need?

thanks for the responses so far

Personally, I would (and did) stick with an i5. When it comes to gaming, IMO there is not enough extra gain from an i7 to justify the increased price. I bought an i5-750 almost two years ago and haven’t regretted it. When you decide on a CPU, you’ll have to check what motherboard type it requires.

I stick with nVidia myself as it seems (according to forums and people I know who bought one) that many games have issues with ATI cards/drivers. Three people I know that bought ATI cards (higher end ones) for gaming in the last 12 months have said that they regretted it and wish they had bought nVidia. Apparently they have had driver issues from the start, and aren’t happy with the cards themselves. I haven’t heard the same from any nVidia owners I know.

I have an ASUS GTX570 and haven’t had any issues, although the 560 is apparently a fantastic card for the money.

Dont cheap out on the PSU. Good PSU’s have a MUCH more stable power curve (better for your components health and the entire systems stability) and are more reliable than the cheapies.
I would look at at least a 500W continuous PSU in a name brand. Many of the cheaper ones claim a rating, but that is the PEAK power, not CONTINUOUS.
I bought an Antec TP-750W PSU. Good quality 750W continuous and quiet.

You seem to have ignored my comment, I cant recommend you a mobo if you don´t mention the so called decided ram?

Further more, with 500€… forget i7, hell, you´d be hard pushed for i5 unless you go 1st gen, which is a bit stupid to do now but hell. Mobo, you´d have to settle for h67 chipset for that price range which means no overclocking, ever. In any case, any ASUS or Gigabyte board will do you fine.

GPU, go for a 460, pretty much the same as a 560 and it´s cheaper.

PSU: Go for a 650/700w and dont skimp on the price.

My set up:

AMD phenom II x4 955 edition 3.2GHz
Gigabyte Ma77ot-Ud3 Modo
Asus top GTX 550ti (factory overclocked, and a little more using evga precision)
2x 2Gigs of OCZ ddr3 1600 MHz ram (although, don’t get this ram with that mobo, blue screens entail)
a 650watt powersupply that I’m forgetting the manufacturer.

This will be roughly in your price range and is a well rounded machine for gaming on a budget.

More like the other way around.

I’ve had no problem with my ATI/AMD card.

Same.

Same… in fact, a few nVidia owners I know have had countless issues with their cards.

At the end of the day it goes both ways, I´ve had ATI & nVidia cards with issues driver wise. Really, at this point, unless you´re going for the higuest card ever and want to research if either nvidia or ati has the throne, either is fine, depending on what range you go for, ati may be better value or nvidia may be better value, frankly, when I have to set up a system for a client and they want a gaming rig on a budget, I´d go for either, just check the performance and price range at the time of need : )

I’ve had issues with ATI drivers fucking stuff up outside of games… nVidia generally works for me… Ah well, just get whatever’s fairly powerful and inside your budget.

The latest Intel Core i-series chips are socket LGA-1155. The most popular line of motherboards with this socket type are the ASUS P8P67 boards. I have an ASUS P8P67 Pro, and it’s been working marvelously for me.

If your friend insists on getting an i7 (as opposed to an i5, which should serve him just fine), then he should probably spring an extra thirty bucks to get the 2600K (as opposed to just the 2600). That way, it’s unlockable for overclocking further down the line if he needs more performance in the future.

8GB 1600MHz RAM is a good amount at a good clock speed. Just make sure - and this is IMPORTANT - that whatever memory he buys is rated for 1.5 Volts. Memory rated at 1.67 Volts does NOT play nicely with the Intel Core i-series chips. I use Corsair Vengeance memory. G.Skill is also a really popular brand with gamers right now.

I would decide the wattage for the power supply based on the video card’s specs. I have an nVidia GTX 580, for which the minimum spec is 600 Watts, so I got a 650 Watt power supply. Generally, builders-of-their-own-PCs are adivsed to go with PSUs from a trusted brand, and not some generic brand. My PSU is a Corsair Enthusiast series.

As for the GPU, some prefer nVidia, some prefer ATI/AMD. I happen to prefer nVidia. Don’t try to save money on a graphics card by getting a GTX 400-series card (they have heating and power-draw issues) or a “recertified” card. If you go with nVidia, go with a GTX 500-series. The 550 is a great budget card, the 560 is awesome bang for the buck if you’re willing to shell out, and if you can afford it, the GTX 580 is godmode. There’s also a GTX 590, but you should only consider it if you’re going to game on an HDTV with enormous native resolution. As for manufacturers: the two big companies (ATI and nVidia) license their technology to third-party manufactures, so that you see their brand name on the card. My GTX 580 is manufactured by EVGA; they’re very popular for their good customer service and excellent warranties. ASUS and Sapphire are also good card manufacturers, from what I’ve heard.

How would someone find out how hot their video card runs? I’m just curious how hot mine runs, especially with people saying the 400 series runs hot in this thread.

I use HWMonitor.

evga precision, with it you can also change the rate at which your gpu´s fan starts spinning and what percentage depending on temps

I just saw an article today about building a pc for battlefield 3. It’s a great article that shows you how bogus the belief is that you NEED to spend thousands to play the latest games. It’s bogus because consoles are holding back graphics anyway so any decent rig can play just about every game on the highest settings. I know you’re going with intel but this article might still be of interest to you. And I think the Nvidia ATI debate is just fanboyism. I’ve always had Nvidia and they’ve served me well. I can say the same about my friends who’ve had ATI also. In all my gaming history I would say that I’ve HEARD more issues happening with ATI and their drivers, but I really have yet to see many issues with either companies’ products. The only game-crippling bug I’ve seen is with my GTX 275 in Crysis near concrete buildings with shadows set above low. Nvidia acknowledged this problem with specific 200-series cards but never fixed it. Anyway here’s the article: https://videogamewriters.com/how-to-build-a-battlefield-3-ready-gaming-rig-for-under-800-27454

MSI Afterburner

I had this running while I was playing some WoW, and my 470 maxed out at 93 C, and seemed to average in the high 80s.

I will leave it running while I sleep to get a decent idle temp, and play a real game tomorrow and see how high the temps go.

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