The Last Film You Saw.

#1541

I think that the problem with the Matrix sequels is based on how they finished the first one. Neo essentially established “God Mode” and “noclip” on himself. He could’ve ruled the Matrix yet somehow had issues with the agents…still. How long did he fight them in that little basketball court thing while agents by the hundreds poured in? He should’ve just been able to blink and obliterate the entire section of the Matrix, agents and all.

And then with the addition of the ‘real world’ problems…well…

I liked it when it was a small, ragtag group of people that have exited the Matrix; not when there’s an entire power structure of the rebels outside the Matrix. That just seemed…odd and out of place to me.

#1542

Actually it wasn’t, as you said, “God mode”. He could bend (and sometimes break) the rules of the Matrix. If he was all powerful then he’d just disintegrate every enemy, send him flying to the orbit or something. There still were rules that even he couldn’t break, hence “agent upgrades” and longer fighting scenes (which nonetheless came out perfect).

As for the Sion, the machines had to destroy something big, right? :wink: The battle itself was epic…

#1543

That’s how they were portraying it at the end of the first Matrix movie and how they were building up to it. “There is no spoon.” “You think that’s air you’re breathing?” None of what was happening in the Matrix was real and if you can…er…displace yourself from it, then it doesn’t matter what “agent upgrades” there are…you’re still outside the realm of Matrix-logic. It’s like they amplified Neo to Godhood…then pulled him back and had him going back to using “there really is a spoon and that really is air you’re breathing, that food you’re eating actually tastes good” Matrix-logic…

Just felt like a disconnect between the first and subsequent movies.

#1544

The fact that “there is no spoon” and ‘it’s not air’ just shows that it’s all a part of a computer system. System built on rules. Rules that can be “hacked” (that’s why most of them were hackers). It wasn’t like “BAM! I’m the one, I can do whatever I want”. Well, he could, but at the end(s) of previous iteration(s) of the Matrix, when he knew what he can do, not at the time the first Matrix ended. His “powers” grew along with understanding of how the Matrix worked. Agents were a part of this system so they couldn’t bend/break some of the rules, the one could because he literally hacked it directly from his brain, no “God mode” here…

#1545

I hope you’re joking, please go back and re-watch the final two movies.

The reason people hated the ending was only indirectly related to his death.

It was the convoluted script, that seems to think it could be justified through all the characters saying non-sensical philosophy 101 bullshit. Non of the new high concept characters/plot devices delivered, and the war in zion that takes up a sizeable chunk of revolutions is pointless.

You can’t justify a shitty movie with a few ‘deep’ sound-bites from its directors, it’s their job to make the story stand up in its own right.

#1546

I have watched the first movie over 50 times, second and third about 15 each so don’t lecture me about a movie that I’ve already seen and know pretty well.

It’s all a matter of taste, some people like it, some don’t. So stop whining if you don’t like it, that’s your choice. As a matter of fact try to think harder when you watch it again, maybe you’ll finally understand it…

#1547

If you’ve seen em all over 15 times and the first over 50, you’re doing something wrong if you only know em ‘pretty well’.

#1548

Sarcasm, man, sarcasm…

#1549

Sarcasm doesn’t work on the internet.

#1550

Actually it does work pretty well :wink:

#1551

I know, I was being sarcastic.

:awesome:

#1552

Ya, sure you were.

#1553

Exactly, I wasn’t. That was the joke, and that’s why I added that smiley to hopefully clear things up.

Unless you’re being double sarcastic or something.

In that case I give up.

#1554

Sure, give up, that had ought to teach me a lesson.

#1555

I’m not teaching anyone lessons, since I obviously have no clue what’s going on.

#1556

Sure you don’t.

#1557

Right, and nor do I…

#1558

So nothing new here… :wink:

#1559

Sooo… Movie reviews…

The Fantastic Mr. Fox - 8/10

A fun and quirky claymated Wes Anderson movie. I love the use of eyes to show emotion in the characters. The gags in it are as fun to laugh at as the dialogue. Very entertaining (which is all that I ask for out of a movie anymore).

#1560

That movie was pretty cussing awesome.

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