The fate and possible survival of Dr. Breen

Actually an old, but still interesting theory. It will be epic, when Gordon face him in Episode three.

Did you saw his body?:expressionless:

I still believe the video of him saying that right before you see the advisor can’t be a coincidence. The devs had to put it there for a reason…

But if not an advisor body, than what do you expect? That particular body is still pretty human, so he wouldn’t be able to survive on the Overworld, which is why the idea was proposed in the first place.

hmmm good point. but what i was trying to say is you don’t need dr breen for a final showdown. he was only a puppet. there are far more dangerous and fierce enemies to face in the hl universe for a final boss fight than dr breen. gordon’s main problem isn’t breen. it never was.

That much is true, AFAIK.

Yes, i agree that Breen was just a Combine pawn. But also he was kinda our main final goal in HL2, like Nihilanth in HL1

exactly. he has no purpose of appearing again, like it wouldn’t make any sense for the nihilanth (or another nihilanth-like alien) to appear again.

Well, The Nihilanth is dead, but we don’t know for sure about Breen.

That we’ll fight an advisor.

The audio commentary in episode 2 strongly implies that we’ll get to fight at least one in episode 3. There’s also a new skill setting for health and an unused particle system called advisor_psychic_shield.

No shit, sherlock.

That video serves as a refresher to the events at the end of HL2, just to jog our memories a bit. That’s the part of the conversation that we hear as Gordon runs down the hallway toward Breen and the big screen. The only purpose it serves is for memory and to show that Alyx can access cross-dimension transmission data from that particular terminal. As for Breen actually making it into a host body, I think it’s definitely plausible. There wasn’t really any definitive evidence that he was destroyed at the base of the combine portal at the end of HL2.

And as for the advisors having “sleepy legs”, I definitely support this theory. It’d be like breaking a leg. You have it wrapped up in a cast for 3 months, not using it, and you get muscle atrophy and need rehabilitation to be able to use it again (I’m saying this from experience, things definitely do not work properly after long periods of inactivity.)

But there is definitave evidence that Breen didn’t survive, and I’m a little disappointed that you so-called hardcore HL2 fans don’t know what that evidence is. I’m not the biggest HL2 fan in the world, but even I caught this bit the first time through.

Well, of course we see the protective shield fall back down to the bottom of the chamber, and we hear Breen yelling “Nooooooooo…”. Who knows what happened after G-man freezes Gordon and Alyx just before the explosion? The body transfer could have finished, leaving Breen’s physical body behind to be vaporized, or he could have survived intact because of the force field. I apologize if I missed any details.

Well, it’s understandable you may think that, but here’s the proof that the transfer was unsuccessful. At the start of Episode 1, Alyx says this, and I quote, “All I remember is Breen…falling”. This means that the explosion blew him out of the teleporter and off the building. Now unless some miracle saved him before he hit the ground, that’s what proves Breen is nothing more than a bloody smear.

they aren’t going to kill off the main villain of the series in the 2nd part of a trilogy, that is just ridiculous.

Games, movies, books, shows and anything else do that all the time (though not necessarily in the second part), HL isn’t a trilogy, Breen wasn’t the main villian, and you’re not a Valve employee who knows things like that.

Well, the sphere that he is in falls back to the bottom of the chamber. I always assumed that’s what she was talking about. She wouldn’t have known that Breen was ejected into airspace by the explosion because she was removed from the citadel by the G-man just as the explosion goes off. She wouldn’t have seen him.

Take another thing into account. She was conscious longer than Freeman, so she could’ve been teleported outside and seen Breen fall. And the sphere could’ve been empty and the explosion so forceful that it threw Breen out, but you can’t tell because the explosion makes it blurry.

And I’m pretty sure that she would’ve used a different word for the sphere going back inside, because falling doesn’t necessarily make sense. Going back inside would be a more descriptive phrase.

wait, so stories kill off the main villain in the middle of the story all the time, but not necessarily in the middle? And by “not necessarily in the middle” you mean they kill off the main villain in the END and not the middle? And this is why you’re taking issue with my post?

No, but you’re so confident that Breen was the main villian and they can’t kill him off that I feel I needed to explain something. And when I say not necessarily the middle, i mean it can also be in or around the first part, or before the end. I’ll give you an example. In Max Payne, you’re sure that the Big Bad is Jack Lupino, and you’re sure he killed your friend, but when you finally kill him at the end of part 1, you find out that it goes further than that. The game does it a second time in part 2, where you think the mafia don is behind it all, but the end reveals it to be a Corrupt Corporate Executive. See where I’m going here?

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