You just don’t fucking get it, and the fact that you just compared Havok to Source proves it even further.
Euphoria and Havok are physics engines. They are integrated into the game engines, such as Source, or the RAGE engine, that GTA4 runs on.
This is so that the developers of said games can have boxes breaking without having to code everything themselves.
So please gtfo and troll a thread where you know something about the subject.
‘Intellectual properties’ would be a safe bet :brow:
EDIT: For fucks sake, why did it load the first page :facepalm:
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Hey LG, good to see you have kind of my same avatar 
Tried the torrent but it seems no seeds are around. Would you upload it to some service if you still have the original zip file from the torrent?
Thanks
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Strange, I just downloaded the damn thing this week and it still had plenty of seeds. I’ll see what I can do, but I’ve never made a torrent before.
EDIT, I just checked again and at the moment there are 3 seeds and 2 peers, maybe you just tried at a bad time?
You smell like butt
Possible. I’ll leave the client on on the weekend and see if I am luckier. More than another torrent I was thinking something like MegaUpload, but no worries. Let’s see how the weekend goes.
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Why thank you. My manly musk usually only works on the opposite sex, but it has been known to affect the more effeminate end of the spectrum of maledom from time to time.
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I agree, but I worry about what it says regarding my sexuality.
Don’t worry about, no-one’s gonna judge you here, just be yourself man.
Raw_Bean is twisting my words!
Drifting back on topic, I wouldn’t mind seeing a continuation of the System Shock series as a whole. While Bioshock was undoubtedly an incredible undertaking and undeniably enjoyable, it’d be like saying “it was released as Doom” in relation to a Wolfenstein sequel. (wow, I had to stretch that far back for a metaphor…I’m gettin’ rusty…)
The story was, easily, one of the best of the era; but given what they’ve done to my beautiful Thief series, I’d probably rather it remain the last nostalgic piece of splendor I’ve always known and loved.
isn’t the current remake enough? Granted, it ain’t no source engine stuff, (infact it uses the same engine-.-) but it gives the textures a nice and new fresh look. and why would you want a remake? as long the game originally looks ok, (I’d say most games after half-life) then why need an update? system shock 2 doesn’t rely on physics or graphics for a creepy atmosphere.
I personally think they did a really good job with Bioshock if it’s considered a spiritual successor to System Shock 2. Not only that but they’re building on what was good in the first game for Bioshock 2, which looks to be a decent game. If anything I’d say that it’s opening up a new era of System Shock fans, just they dont know it 
Have you ever even played System Shock 2? BioShock was a damn good game, but they cut so much out of it, that to call it a spiritual successor to SS2 is kind of insulting. The only real things that carried over are guns, ghosts, audio logs, and BioShock had a decent atmosphere. Nothing like SS2, though.
It still kinda felt like it to me. they’re both sci-fi and they’re both creepy (especially SS2) but I don’t see they’re really all that similar.
Shodan and Atlas both talk to you throughout the game in SS2 and BioShock, respectively.
I always felt that SS2 was more psychological and it relied more on atmosphere, while BioShock was more about monster-closet scares.
I see where you’re coming from.
Bioshock was dripping with atmosphere. Literally.
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