My only contribution to socialized healthcare is this:
We have it in Canada, and it’s awesome.
You know from experience that it is abysmal in Canada.
TL/DR: Socialized healthcare means free healthcare
The fact that so many people actually believe this scares the crap out of me.
Yes, Medevilae is, unfortunately.
The Obama administration is severely limiting the pay of the top executives of those corporations that requested to be bailed out by the United States Government.
But, yeah, the Obama administration barely cares…
Meanwhile, back in 2008, the bailouts were happening under the previous administration’s watch and bonuses were being paid out and I heard not a peep from these people that are SO AGAINST THE BAILOUTS now.
I’ve talked with my Canadian friends and they love the health care system in Canada. It’s better than the United States’. So, if Canada’s is “abysmal” then the United States’ is even worse.
The Canadian Healthcare system is fine. Not perfect, but it does what it’s supposed to.
It is a society’s duty to take care of everyone collectively. You’d want someone to do the same for you.
Yes, socialized healthcare is wonderful if only no one had to pay for it. The taxpayers have to pay for it. If it’s only a little bit for a taxpayer like me to pay, I’ll be fine with it. If people are satisfied with it and it makes life better, I’ll be happy with it. Seeing that it works in Canada, I say my country should try it and stop yelling at President Obama. Let us see if the experiment works instead of yelling until our vocal cords get strained.
The problem, though, is that we ARE paying for it, right now. With increased health care costs and less GPs (who would be a GP after being saddled with massive school-loan debt and not making enough money from private insurance?) , we’re paying through the nose for adequate-to-less-than-adequate service.
If you can afford coverage and for health care, you get one of the best in the world. But, if you can’t, good luck. There’s always the emergency room for things that shouldn’t have been emergencies in the first place but are now because of neglect. We all pay for this most expensive of services when someone who can’t pay doesn’t.
No one is suggesting “free health care” in that “it’s not going to cost anyone a dime anywhere”. We’re suggesting “free health care” in that “it’s not going to cost you anything out of pocket and you won’t be billed because the costs are already paid for”.
Wow, I thought there were more hard-ass conservatives on this site.
On topic: I am for socialized healthcare and any dipshit protester has obviously been watching and/or listening to too much conservative entertainment.
What I want to know is why other countries give a damn what healthcare system is used in the U.S.
And if it’s you with the broken leg and without any money to pay for proper treatment, I am sure you’d be glad that nobody would be affected by your pain, that nobody would give a shit and that nobody would pay the treatment for you, so that your leg would likely never really heal properly?
Well, aren’t you a selfless little guy? Such a sweetheart! 
Well, just cut your income tax then. Your constitution grants you to keep all money that you earn, without ever having to share with anybody.
I hate people who don’t know what an apostrophe is :hmph:
Get over it
… and a life!
Charity. Look into it.
I am not suicidal
Charity is insufficient.
Mind-boggingly false.
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Time for someone from Norway to chime in.
We have socialized health care just like Canada and the UK, but here we have separate administrations for each county (wikipedia: Counties of Norway) that manages the hospitals. We are now talking about changing this to be only one administration for the entire country (liking to federal administration in the US) because the administrations spend too much money and the quality still sucks and there are long queues.
So this is actually going from a decentralized government control to a centralized government control. What the difference is I don’t know yet (time will show).
We also have private health institutions (it’s not outlawed, anyone can establish their own private clinic if they want). Which those with a lot of money can use if they don’t want to sit in the public health care queues. Still they pay tax for the public health care.
I’m not arguing against or for private health care as a system. I know it can work, and I understand the concept of people wanting to take care of themselves. This SHOULD be an incentive for people to get a job and work for a living because otherwise they will be poor and will have limited health care resources. Still there are lots of poor people in the US and many die. Are these people just lazy or what?
Also wealth is very relative indeed. Even if you have no health issues, have access to clean water and food and some basic entertainment you may still feel poor if you live among people with a lot more money than you. It’s just how people are.
Actually, a great many of them (dare I say “most”?) want to work but there are no jobs. Even if you get or have a job, it doesn’t mean that you can afford health insurance.
What the Obama administration is trying to do is to give everyone a choice on what they want. There are some in the United States that don’t want that choice to be offered.
Turn on the news channel. Look at the economic situation.
EDIT: Oh shit, ninjaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa’d