ITT: flamewar.
capitlasm bad
As I stated, you’re thinking in black and white.
The companies aren’t gods, we aren’t devils. That’s not how this works.
As stated before people who pirate also buy alot. Like myself.
I’ve pirated plenty, but I’ve also bought plenty of games, movies, music items.
Better than Communism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_the_People’s_Republic_of_China
“o, but it CAN work, but there are corrupt leaders that mess it up!” Then obviously it doesn’t fucking work.
They make the game
We share the game
We like the game
We buy it, and if independant and we want to see more, we donate
The system repeats, and flourishes
I only let live the people that I think deserve it. I am free to shoot anyone else
Daedalus Logic fail: [COLOR=‘Red’]+2[/SIZE]
Tell me all your video game purchases in the past year. I don’t believe you’ve bought even half as many games you’ve downloaded.
amitedatly this year i have been strapped for cash so have downloaded nothing and bought nothing, but my steam list is quite big from previous years, I have 48 games (Not including any Mods), some I have tried before buying through sharing, but mostly I have bought because I enjoyed the first which ironically with most I tried first, am I a criminal for that?
Games I downloaded this year:
-Mass Effect (Will buy the sequel, it was awesome)
-X3: Reunion, just to see if my pc could handle it since I just bought a new 1300 euro gaming pc.
-Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force. Pretty much unavailable anywhere.
-Anno 1404: Meh
-Freelancer: Fucking love it. If there’s ever a sequel I will buy the shit out of it.
Games I bought:
-Crysis
-Crysis Warhead
-Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
-Final Fantasy VII (PSP)
-Final Fantasy VIII
-S.T.A.L.K.E.R
-Left 4 Dead
-The Command & Conquer Saga
-Bioshock
-Prince of Persia
-GTA: San Andreas
Sorry bout the double post.
besides steam purchases all of the games i bought were used 360 games so the devs got no money there anyway
Ummmm you do realize that you donating in the end basically is the same as paying for the game in the first place?
Let me try to put this a little more simply, seeing as my economics diagram was inffective
COMPANIES: Put money into a product, This includes wages for employees, material purchase, power expenditure, etc. And in order to make profit off of a product, they sell the product at the price suggested by their marketing officials.
PEOPLE: Buy the product, thus reversing the deficit of the product and turning it into a [COLOR=‘Red’]PROFIT, because as we all know, you cannot pay for things with nothing.
If a company makes NOTHING, then it cannot pay for things. Because as much as we’d like to receive a game for free and claim “OH the company is just dedicated to making really awesome games for people!” At the end of the day, the power company, the companies that supply the discs, the companies that supply the hardware and software, and countless other companies, don’t necessarily share the same enthusiasm. So your idea of this “Donation Society” (which is nothing more than a “I decide when I want it to be capitalism” mentality) is ultimately a complete economic failure.
Edit: Don’t confuse me here, I’m simply explaining why what this person said is complete fail. I am not arguing either side of the “Piracy” debate. So please try not to misquote me as such
I respect your opinion, but seriously, check out this CP.
Alright JohnKiller, can you please stop being a self-important moralfag and stfu?
You’ve made your points many times over, and I think we all get that you are against piracy. That’s no reason to look down on people who pirate. Immoral and illegal things always present risks, which are a price to pay. They have their opinions, and take their own risks for the ‘immoral’ things that they do. They are not harming you, and they are hardly harming the companies that make the games. I won’t say that you’re wrong and they’re right, because I think piracy is too general a thing for it to be absolutely right or wrong.
It does both harm and good to the industries, and just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean it’s ‘stealing’. The RIAA and record companies also confuse ‘sharing’ with ‘stealing’ all-too-often, and do a good deal of stealing themselves. Some games which are no longer in production (old games mostly) are sold used. The developers get no money from used games, so it’s unclear who you’re ‘stealing’ from. But then, there are people who download fucking everything, and don’t realize that they are wrong. Downloading instead of buying indie stuff like Mount & Blade is pretty much an insult to gaming on top of being unfair towards the dev. Legally, it’s all wrong. Morally, some of it is debatable.
But looking down on people, calling them scum, and being an all-around jackass is absolutely wrong, and rude. Argue if you’re gona argue, but for fuck’s sake, don’t be so condescending.
Took the words outta my mouth. Exactly what I meant with the whole thinking in black and white thing.
That’s the word I was looking for!
NEVER!
Very good points. Especially concerning used games. I definitely think there is a difference between pirating a new game and pirating something out of production, because then the production companies never really get profit from those games back anyway.
Good points, good logic, argument ends here plox
:3
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no, lol. If that’s what you meant you didn’t really explain it very well. You kinda made some very blurry arguments
Do agree. I think we’ve reached a satisfying conclusion here.
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