Pickup and Throw Combat?

Black Mesa Archive Suggestion Box
#241

We updated our throw mechanics and even added the ability to pickup and toss nades…see we do listen.

#242

I hope you still kept the fuse somewhere near 2 seconds. I don’t like that infuriating 5-10 seconds it takes in every other game for grenade to explode.

#243

There’s a big difference between a grenade having a 5 & 10 second timer. The one in Half-Life was 5 seconds by the way.

#244

Since it’s been too long and I can’t remember anything about Half-Life, I can only compare to HL2. I suppose it was 5 seconds in there also. But that’s way too long. My attention span is too short to wait 5 seconds for grenades. :wink:

The 10 seconds was merely a bad attempt at humour. I hope no game actually has it that long. Though it sometimes seems like it.

But I remember Raminator saying they made the fuse something like 2.5 seconds. So I am/was really happy hoping I could actually enjoy using grenades in some game.

#245

wiki:
“Grenades have a 2.5 second timer before the detonation [3].”

it’s there for a reason

#246

So I was right and wrong. Correct time, wrong person.
But wiki doesn’t really help me here. That quote is from way back. Almost 2 years ago. Hence why I’m hoping (I can’t really know for sure) it still is that way.

Or are you telling me, that everything in the wiki is up to date and correct?

#247

My mistake, the grenades in HL1 do live for 2.5 seconds.

#248

Well, it’s ought to be.

#249

my bad, i thought you two were disagreeing over how long the fuse time is in BM (as far as we know)

#250

Fuse time is 2.5 seconds.
Picking up the grenade with the +use key will reset the timer to 2.5 seconds under two conditions.

  1. it was the first time the grenade was picked up
  2. the timer was less than 2.5 seconds
#251

seems a bit odd to reset the timer
you probably did it because it would be almost impossible to pick up a grenade without it blowing up in your face, but I think that would probably add to the rush

#252

Lose the ‘almost’ and you’re probably correct. Dunno 'bout the rush though.

#253

Sounds good, but if it’s like picking up regular props, how hard can you throw it?

#254

Does the timer of the grenade reset when grabbed in HL2? (With use, not the gravity gun that is.)

#255

I think you can’t pickup grenades in Half-Life 2 then.

#256

You can pick grenades up in HL2, but they removed it from BM a while ago. So it’s more readding the ability to pick them up.

#257

I’m guessing it was in response to playtester annoyance that they couldn’t throw back grenades.

#258

If that’s the case then why did they take it out in the first place? Throwing grenades wasn’t in during the first playtest?

#259

We are silly developers.

#260

I’d just settle with throwing back live grenades, and large chunks of concrete should fall on the turntable.

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