“Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.”
:awesome:
i’d watch the movie right now but i feel like i’ve watched it too much
I’ve actually never seen that movie. Hear great things about it, though.
what movie is it?
I installed W7 yesterday (upgrade from Vista) on my mother’s PC. After a 15 minute install, then waiting 5 minutes for a performance check and another 5 minutes for the desktop to be “organized” (both unskippable and forced on me), I was already tired of the entire OS again. Add to that the hassle of downloading drivers and the fact that some programs stopped working due to registry problems (despite the fact that they should be working fine in W7)… It just makes for a big “fuck this, I seriously cba with this” pie.
I seriously do not know why Microsoft insists on putting so much useless junk into their OS. Sure it doesn’t happen a lot and most of the useless junk can probably be shut off somewhere, but why is it there in the first place? People often claim that “macfags r 2 stoopid”, but it feels to me that it is Microsoft that believes its audience is completely retarded.
Soooo…let me get this straight, Bolteh. You are upset with Windows because it takes less than a half hour to install? And you can’t stand the fact that Windows can do so much so you are so incensed with the fact that you might have to find drivers for non-Windows peripherals that you will not use Windows at all? The “junk”, as you call it, are actually usable options that many people use. Even if you don’t use them, you’re mad that they’re even there for you to have to ‘deal’ with having on your system? What if, later down the line, you want that option? You’d probably be mad at Windows for not including it beforehand. Am I right?
No. I don’t understand why the automatic configuration of Windows takes the same time than the install of the OS itself. I don’t understand why Windows feels like it should enable every little option and feature right from off the bat (automatically without allowing me to get into the OS first) and then doesn’t even tell me where to disable every little thing that I have no need for.
Why not just install the OS. Then go straight to your desktop and give you a “Did you know?” window where the features are described and tells you where to go to enable, so people can skim through it on their own pace/time without wasting 10 minutes of their lives just setting everything up with a reasonable chance that people will turn it off or never use it anyway.
No one ever reads the “Did you know…?” windows.
I’d rather have the option to read them or not instead of sitting there waiting for absolutely nothing.
The “automatic configuration” is to take a standard Windows installation and configure it to work with the idiosyncrasies of your particular system. It’s not “absolutely nothing”.
And a registry problem is a problem with the program itself, not Windows. Go to the program manufacturer for a fix.
EDIT: You’re sounding an awful lot like this guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCEQZ_4V7NY
Hate to be the bearer of bad news Apple… your running on IBM/PC Hardware these days… 
Most Mac owners I know boast about running Windows and MS Office … I thought that was what you were trying to get away from? So you didnt buy that overpriced machine for its status and looks then and its currently cool to hate M$ ? :hmph:
Nothing against Macs/Apple it tends to be the snobby owners that get on my stick!..
but I do reserve the right not to buy white/shiny, overpriced hardware that runs censored software. 
a bit like the iPod… ATV… iPhone…
Then I wonder what it was doing when the installer was configuring my system. The waiting times after the install had nothing to do with it making it work with the idiosyncrasies of my particular system. It was just wasting time on calculating performance for god knows what reason and setting up some widgets on the desktop and whatever other “features” you may or may not find on the desktop.
The installer itself already took care of the system configuration, since the resolution was already native, already had connection to the internet and it had the drivers for the soundcard running. So anything after the actual install couldn’t have been of any importance.
Oh and ehm: the existence of the registry is a problem with Windows.
All of these, and previous, points aren’t necessarily flaws in the OS and they don’t make Windows bad. What they do do (this doesn’t sound right… “do do”?), however, is that they makes me dislike Windows because they makes me do things I don’t want to do. They annoy me. They spoil the “fun” of working in an OS.
When I got my iMac, I unboxed it and 10 minutes later I was playing CoD4. When I upgraded Leopard to Snow Leopard, a minute after the install I was playing WoW.
On the PC of my mum, 10 minutes after the install (the end of the install meaning: the start of using the OS… or should be), I was still looking at “Organizing your desktop”.
So, you don’t like Windows because it takes longer to do more? You don’t know or understand what it’s doing so it must be wrong?
Interesting.
And the registry is how the programs “hooks” into Windows. Why is it a bad thing?
By the way, have you watched the video yet?
I have, we already came to the conclusion that he’s an obvious troll in some other thread weeks ago (giveaway: he’s proud on the flames he receives in the comments, even posts them as his biography).
And why does a program have to “hook” into Windows? Is it that hard to just have your applications in a folder and they start when you click the .exe? OSX does it this way. It allows me to back up the entire Applications folder and paste it back in place each and every time I need to.
And it didn’t do that in 98, 2000, XP or Vista. So no, I don’t understand who it’s doing that. So yes it’s wrong.
If I buy a pie, I expect to get the pie and be able to eat it a second later. I don’t want to wait for the pie to be prepared and bake. And above all, I don’t want to bake the pie myself.
https://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20006502-245.html
Sup guys, just throwing one more log to the fire.
Wait a second there, Bolteh, you say you were upgrading from Vista, and you’re complaining that the process took a long time, that it was reorganizing your files for nothing, it messed up and made bugs appear, bad windows… Instead I think you were misinformed. What the installer does in case of an upgrade is automatically migrate the registry files from a backup file (yes it does that while it says “reorganizing your desktop”, no it’s not just setting up widgets) You should have skipped the update and done a clean windows 7 install (would have taken less time). And then just manually copied the programs and settings from windows.old to C:… Basically you chose the automatic process even though it warns you about potential issues with programs and you still say windows is to blame? I rest my case.
It was one of those installers on a memory-stick, she got it through her job, was like €40 or €60 or something, an upgrade was all we could do.
But still, what’s the point of all of that? Why offer an upgrade when it only fucks up the entire thing? When I upgraded Leopard to Snow Leopard, it took 10-15 min to install, no additional stuff being calculated or organized, and everything still worked like a charm. No issues, no problems, no performance loss. Nothing. In the end, the problem is still with Windows/Microsoft.
Only thing Snow Leopard gave me was the annoying 30s “Welcome” movie in a bazillion languages.
Point in case, quite a bit of the experiences I’ve had with Windows for personal computing, have been bad ones. So far I haven’t had a bad experience with OSX. No hassle, no problems, no worries, nothing. Therefore, OSX is my OS of choice.
what the fuck does it have to do with the debate.
Yeah, but not really. W7 pin feature didn’t improve on dock one bit. My point stands.
More of what exactly?
It does.