New bill for justifiable homicide

#81

Your definition of becoming a human being is entirely arbitrary. Why does physical independantness automatically make you human? You are still no better at that point in time than the animals we kill for sport.

As to the pro-life vs. pro-choice thing, thats just idiocy, not an argument. Just because I reach the same logical conclusion as they do about one issue does not automatically mean I believe in their view point. I think that it is justifiable to kill someone if their quality of life is likely to be terrible, as a child’s born to parents who don’t want it probably will be.

Daniel, really? I equate the potential of a baby to that of a fetus therefore child sex? Nice logic.

#82

In other words, you’re saying that the definition of “human being” is entirely arbitrary and nocturnal emissions or having a period kill human beings because there are potential human beings in there. Also, even having sex that results in a human being is also killing human beings because many sperm don’t make it and die, not being able to become a human being.

So, everyone on the planet is a murderer of babies.

#83

it’s not pro life, it’s anti-choice. jsyk.

and no, being born is not an arbitrary definition of becoming a human being. life starts at birth. i dont see how you’re not getting this

#84

Hardly. Just because there is potential doesn’t mean its going to happen, not to mention if you have no intent its irrelevant. With fetuses, however, there is a high enough probability of a baby that it should be treated as something that will become a human.

Fancy, defend life starts at birth with more than just saying it. An argument is founded in logic, not in force of repetition.

#85

the period during which something is functional (as between birth and death); “the battery had a short life”; “he lived a long and happy life”

the period between birth and the present time; “I have known him all his life”

the condition that distinguishes organisms from inorganic objects and dead organisms, being manifested by growth through metabolism, reproduction, and the power of adaptation to environment through changes originating internally.

the time when something begins (especially life); “they divorced after the birth of the child”; “his election signaled the birth of a new age”

oh and btw
baby
a very young child (birth to 1 year) who has not yet begun to walk or talk; “the baby began to cry again”; “she held the baby in her arms”; “it sounds simple, but when you have your own baby it is all so different”

BIRTH TO 1 YEAR

#86

It’s born when it’s done being made.

#87

It’s your logic, you soak in it.

You say that a fetus has the potential to be a baby so, therefore it’s a baby. So, therefore, a baby has the potential to be an adult, so, therefore, it’s an adult.

#88

Actually laughed at your baby definition pants, since if you actually go on the site you find that it also apparently can be defined as up to three years, and more interestingly, a fetus. So by your trust in sources, a baby is now equated to a fetus. Good job! Unless of course you wish to disown that particular source and withdraw your statement.

As too life, your definitions do not disprove my assertion, especially with number four in there. Biologically is really the only way to go when you get into that.

Finally, you are pro-choice, they are pro-life. Deal with it. Or you can be anti-life and they can be anti-choice. However, acting like an obnoxious elitist by giving yourselves catchy names does not improve your position. Be better than that.

No Daniel, thats not my logic. Equal potential does not equal equality.

#89

lol no, pro life is a bullshit term because A FETUS IS NOT ALIVE. IT IS NOT HUMAN LIFE. they are anti-choice.

and it is your logic. a fetus is going to be a baby, therefore it is a baby. a baby is going to be an adult, therefore it is an adult.

#90

No, a fetus is going to be a baby, therefore it should be treated as a baby is treated, which is as a human.

As to the names, its childish. Argue with arguments not name calling. Its like the “repeal of the job-killing health care bill” the republicans put up. I’d expect that from a three year old, not a grown member of society.

#91

A baby is going to be an adult, therefore it should be treated as an adult is treated.

A baby is going to be a corpse, therefore it should be treated as a corpse is treated.

#92

uhh how is pointing out that someones stance is hypocritical name calling

you cant call yourself pro life then try to remove the rights of people who are actually alive

#93

Was I completely ignored? Morality in abortion should not be based off some silly line people draw, it should be based solely off of a pros and cons list of the suffering and happiness involved. And, seeing as it is HER body and HER fetus, the mother should be the one making the pros and cons list.

#94

yeah you were ignored because your opinion was irrelevant and retarded considering thats not what were arguing about

#95

You’re arguing whether or not fetuses should count as a human life and whether or not that makes abortion immoral. I’m arguing that whether or not a fetus is technically alive is entirely irrelevant. You people are arguing over a technicality, which seems a lot more irrelevant.

#96

were not arguing about the morality of abortion at all though? so idk what the fuck youre reading

#97

That’s funny. It appears I know what you’re arguing better than you do. If you aren’t arguing about the morality of abortion then why the fuck has there been so much discussion as to whether or not a fetus can be counted as human? Please enlighten me if that is not what you’re arguing about.

#98

… thats the entire argument, neither one of us is opposed to abortion. its whether or not a fetus is a baby. MAYBE if either one of us was against abortion it would be about that but that isnt the case sooooooooo

#99

Wrong. I never said that. Do we treat babies like adults? No. However, we do recognize they have the potential to be adults. The same applies to fetuses.

#100

ITT: Everyone but Fancy loses. Not just because she is a woman, but because she is righteous

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