I still don’t see why people are crying over Happy Tree Friends. Like I said before, Itchy and Scratchy are equally as bad yet no-one’s disgusted if a two year old watches the Simpsons.
I haven’t watched Happy Tree Friends in quite a few years but I thought it was hilarious back in middle school when I found it.
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Happy tree freinds (and Itchy and Scrathcy) creeped me the fuck out when I saw them in middle school, I don’t see how it constitutes as comedy.
Because Itchy and Scratchy are blatantly violent. Plus the Simpsons is rated PG.
Happy Tree Friends doesn’t come right out and say it’s violent, AFAIK, it masquarades as a normal kid’s show.
I could be wrong, I’ve never personally watched it. Feel free to correct me if I am.
You’re completely wrong. If you’ve never watched it, you don’t really have any right to comment.
Also, I know the Simpsons is rated PG. That doesn’t stop the fact that Itchy and Scratchy is equally as bad as HTF.
The difference between those two medias is
- the simpsons has been around for at least a decade (maybe even two if you count that short) thus, most censors go easier on it.
- Itchy and Scratchy rarely, if ever, show blood coming from Wounds.
It is disgusting, and that’s what makes it funny. Happy Tree Friends (HTF) is so overtly violent and so over the top that its funny. But some people don’t like it; its the same reason some people don’t like horror movies. Other people, such as myself, can see that overly ridiculous violence can be funny. And it doesn’t make me any more likely to kill or harm anyone.
But I do agree that children shouldn’t see it. Why? Because children are at such a stage of their development that they can’t differentiate between TV shows and reality, and they need to be taught basic morality and basic distinctions between right and wrong. That’s the role of the parents, and TV shows like HTF can seriously interfere with that process.
The reason we have ratings which make things PG is that when kids watch it they need a parent telling them what is and isn’t appropriate and fully explain that they see on TV. They haven’t developed to the stage where they can understand some TV shows/movies/games/whatever, so the government recommends that a parent supervise them. MA15+ and R18+ movies classify some movies/TV shows as suitable for people once they reach a certain age.
That’s blatantly wrong. Incorrect. Fallacious. Erroneous. Factually unsound.
Happy Tree Friends actually says at the beginning of every episode that it is not suitable for children and that it contains ridiculous amounts of violence. It has an MA15+ rating when its released on DVD, and it never masquerades as a children’s TV show.
Um, what? Firstly, Itchy and Scratchy is nothing like HTF; its not as violent, its not as grossly depicted, etc. While you may contend that it still contains killing and whatever, if you’re arguing in that vein you should probably go and ban most of Looney Tunes too. Secondly, I&S is a parody of shows like HTF; its a dig at how violent they are and to what extent the TV has become children’s babysitters.
I find it funny that a few months ago everyone on the fourms was like “OMG mw2 will be sooooo awsum!!!” and I said “lol no cod sux lol,” but now it’s “waaaaaaaaa fuk u infity ward u removed dedicated servers and love consols baaaaaaaawwwwww” and I’m like “Holy shit, this game is awesome!”
Bigfan, that’s bollocks, there’s not always blood in Itchy and Scratchy, but that doesn’t make it any less violent.
And loony, I’m not saying it should be banned, that should have been obvious, I’m saying that it’s stupid to complain about HTF but not about Itchy and Scratchy. And it’s close to being as violent and graphic as HTF.
For example, there’s one where Itchy disembowels scratchy, pulls out his intestines, ties them to a rail then pushes him into a volcano where he hang by his intestines. Then Itchy pours petrol down the intestines to the point where Scratchy bursts and then gets set on fire. I realise that HFT goes beyond this level of violence, but my point still stands
Ingle Farm.
And my point is that HTF is fundamentally different from I&S. While I&S is macabre to the extent that it makes you question the joy shown on Bart and Lisa’s faces when they watch the show, HTF is supposed to make you laugh at the grotesque absurdity of the situation.
On topic: I played through this part last night. I see nothing wrong with it. In the context of the game it fits and conveys the unsettling feeling as well as showing how ruthless these guys are, and adds to the feeling that you need to stop them. It won’t stop the media from having a field day, though. I’m expecting it to be taken out of context and called a “terrorist sim” more than once. Even if it does give you a choice to completely skip the chapter if you don’t like the idea.
What? The Simpsons is nowhere near that subtle. It’s a parody of Tom and Jerry, not some moral aptitude test. Fact is, lots of people find I&S funny. Whether I&S is intended to be funny or not doesn’t matter (although since it’s in a comedy show, I doubt that it isn’t) since people still find it funny for the same reasons. So again, my point still stands.
Happy Tree Friends is entertaining and well animated, and it lets middle schoolers pretend to be mature by squealing with pubescent laughter with their pimply companions. There’s nothing wrong with it, and nobody should take it seriously enough to fill up an entire page of a thread devoted to a different topic entirely with conversation about it.
You tell that to the players of Fable 2, which lets you kill millions of people by decapitating them, shoot them in the groin, just plain out shoot them and electrocute/impale,burn them. I haven’t heard any complains about that,which you can do in the entire game, and then they start complaining about a single scene, in singleplayer mode which is barely played anymore in the Call of Duty franchise.
On another note, why does everybody say the videogames that contain violence is bad, while it’s clearly the people who play that games who see it as something that must be done.
EDIT: Also: I don’t get what’s so bad about Happy Tree Friends. The violence in it isn’t commited by someone else (mostly) and it most of the time it’s stuff that isn’t even possible in real life, like your eye wrapped around a tree that falls over a cliff but is too large to actually fall into it and the other end lands on the other side so you fall but the stuff that connects your eye to the brain makes sure you don’t hit the bottom and you hang on it (which is of course very painfull) on that thing.
EDIT shit double post
I’m generally displeased with CoD titles, but now that I’ve seen this, I’ll probably get it when the price drops.
That was the most emotionally impacting thing I’ve ever seen in a video game. It’s just so different from what I’m used to.
I just played through this chapter of the game and it was not that bad. I understood it’s relevance to the story and it was a nice twist at the end.
I didn’t shoot many people at the beginning but I started shooting when I approached the police/Swat people coming in to kill us.
Well, your prophesy has come to pass. This morning they were talking about this part of the game on the local news. That was the first time that I saw any footage from this game and it looked awesome as hell. I liked the single player mode in MW, though I enjoyed the multiplayer less, don’t know why. Can’t wait to play it.
The terrible thing is, here in Germany ignorant politicians and parents that are either too lazy or just don’t want to take the responsibilities constantly try to ban video games because they see direct relations to real life violence. Until now, their points and arguments were ridiculous, in most cases because they were simply wrong, or because they were based on faked proof (faking ego shooter scenes etc.). So we gamers almost managed to convince them, but this scene is going to render it all useless after all, because this one IS violence, pure violence, without irony, and according to many reviewers, WITHOUT the emotional participation (which somehow would be a legitimate reason to show such things in a game) you guys here are talking about.
Thank you, IW, for another few years of bullshit about computer games here in Germany.