Microsoft's arrogance

OP, did you actually bother fucking reading the interview in the first place? The guy actually has, while overexaggerated, a pretty valid opinion and absolutely makes sense.
And the whole thing has little to nothing to do with FPSs. Can’t blame you, kotaku knows how to stir shit byquoting stuff out of context. Oh well, same with other journalists.
https://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/09/18/-Talking-Kinect-With-Kudo.aspx

Also, it kinda kill the argument about porting.

It’s still a pretty extreme and ignorant claim to make.

Especially with halo, the PC version was just as “fun” to play as the console one - and it had online, which the first one didn’t because xbox live wasn’t around yet.

Don’t get me wrong, i kind of see where he is going, but you can reverse it for the PC.

“Less people play pc because the games aren’t developed specifically for them anymore”

If there were a ton of cross-platform releases that the PC version was vastly superior in some way wouldn’t it make you want to get it on the PC?

Personal opinion that really has nothing to do with the direction of the thread:

Consoles are far too expensive for their extremely limited window of visual fidelity, hardware and publishing support, and downright usability (we saw XBox Live go down forever months ago).

Money you spend on the hardware, controllers, and it’s online gaming services can easily add up into the thousands over the course of the console’s life. You never get that back. Not even when you go to buy the next generation of consoles, which will be even more expensive, since companies continues to give barely a passing glance to backwards compatibility. I’ll have all my games run universally, thank you.

No mod support. This is what always has me buying the PC version even if it is a shitty port. I could play through Portal once on a console, or I can learn Hammer and make my own maps, or download and play maps others have made. Patching used to be a big gripe, but that’s mostly over nowadays if you want to pay for an online ‘service’ that in my opinion should be free. This same fact means there are no user created add-ons, no UI tweaks, no trainers or item makers (God did this make Oblivion 10x better). Nothing by the users. At all. Just spoon fed cannon. That can get boring after awhile.

This pretty much constitutes the attitude by pretty much all major media conglomerates in the last decade and a half. You don’t own your software or your hardware (see Sony’s ‘Other OS’ lawsuit) You play what we tell you, how we tell you, when we tell you.

Maybe I’m misguided, or maybe PC gaming is nothing more than a measly attempt to circumvent ‘the man’, but I know this for sure: The PC makes gaming more fun. Try arguing that to your console friends on their message boards. Oh wait.

Hence I’ve noted, overly exaggerated.
But it holds some truth to it.

Let’s have a little research and look at PC FPSs that over the years made it to top 10 most popular titles:

  1. Doom 3
  2. Counter-Strike
  3. Half-Life
  4. Half-Life 2

don’t know about TF2.

While if you look at console top selling titles, we have 5 fps and 3 tps, all of them being relatively recent:

Halo 3/ODST
Call of Duty 4/5/6
Gears of war 1/2
GTA IV

Yeah, 4 of them are MS exclusives, but it does not change overall situation much.

And probably Reach.
Sorry, but I can clearly see how FPSs do REALLY good on consoles compared to PCs, if not better.
I don’t want to argue on who’s to blame and who’s innocent, it is how it is.

I’m sorry, but do you get your money back from upgrading the gaming rig all the time? Do you get your money back from online services on PCs (MMORPGs, for instance)? This passage above, and just about every thing you said in your hysterical post, did not make any sense.

Worst-Case Scenario:

  1. People stop making FPS games for PC.
  2. Someone writes an awesome PS3/Xbox360/chooseyourflavor emulator for PC.
  3. Buy FPS games for console.
  4. Play them on your PC.
  5. ???
  6. Profit!

Panties out of your asscracks, people.

It’s just a shame that a system as noble and powerful as the PC is being neglected by the big fish only because the consoles make more money.

Makes sense in economic terms but it’s a complete waste in terms of potential for creativity and technological innovation.

As powerful as the consoles may be, they’re slowing down potential breakthroughs in gaming technology because they are now the standard for which game engines are written.

One final remark from me regarding the situation and what may happen in the next few years - whatever the changes are, you either accept them and stride alongside - or FUCK OFF. It’s not like you are going to die without video games.
Or you can man up and make your own strides into making a “better world” instead of bitching.

EDIT: Maxey : Noble and powerfull? All right, now your are talking nonsense, man :lol:

Hilarious is you adding in ‘all the time’ just to make your rebuttal post valid. So yes, you can upgrade PC hardware where consoles have absolutely no options. You can also play any game ever released for PC. Try doing that on PS3 and all of Sony’s passed titles. I don’t play MMOs that charge personally, but yes, if you were to play one it’s the same concept as an online service on console.

Not to mention you get the best of both worlds packaged with a PC. Emulators anyone?

Oh man, show me the argument for why you think that makes no sense.

Oh, so you decided to nitpick deep into my posts. You are quite a troublesome basement dweller as it turns out.

I’ve actually made my point about console hardware and it’s upgrading in another thread. Feel free to read it.

Well I never considered a piece of hardware noble, that’s for sure.

Hahaha, PC gaming isn’t dying. They’ve been saying that since the 90s, never happens. Digital sales revenue surpassed retail revenue on PC this year, which means that when you look at NPD numbers for PC, remember to add on another 50-60% or more.

Plus 11 million WoW subs, 25 million active Steam accounts, a few million at Impulse and hundreds of thousands more spread across GoG, D2D and all the rest add up to a lot of gamers.

SUDDENLY IT elephant in the room

Steam to the rescue, huh.
https://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/20/npd-downloads-eclipse-retail-on-pc/

Narcissistic personality disorder? :stuck_out_tongue:

And don’t forget about the PC hardware market.

What about it?

I was replying to Jambo, you posted while I was typing that reply. The hardware market for the PC is another reason why PC gaming won’t just die, video card / memory / motherboard manufacterers wouldn’t allow that to happen. That’s why I wanted the hardware market to invest in PC gaming like nVidia did with Crysis.

I’m not being literal, of course.

The thing is, PC gaming reached and maintained high levels of success for more than 20 years, and this alongside consoles.

As a gaming platform, it always had far more potential than consoles ever did. A lot of highly successful and well known gaming franchises were created on the PC. It’s the birthing place of online gaming and has a huge community behind it.

It is also why you’re in this forum in the first place.

Now, because consoles broke the balance and are far more successful than PC now, does it make PC gaming any less legitimate?

I know you’re referring to hard, cold facts but you’re also supporting conformism. This is what gaming companies want. They know the average joe is a conformist who will not raise a finger to change anything and that’s how they thrive. As long as they keep churning out shitty games and people keep buying them, they’re not gonna change their modus operandi.

Yeah, you’re probably right,Jeannot

Also,
https://www.joystiq.com/2010/09/20/npd-downloads-eclipse-retail-on-pc/

May be totally irrelevant, but quite much if you ask me

Fix’d that for you. I don’t know, but in my opinion and judging from my experience, console is much more appropriate as a gaming platform

It does not mean that both these things should stay PC exclusive. And of course, vice versa.

Well, it’s not like I’m were not pleased with the most of the titles I’ve played on consoles so far. but it depends on what you prefer.

Now you’re just being a jerk.

Tell me, when did you play HL1 for the first time?

  1. Compaq Presario PC.

Why am I being a jerk? I just said that consoles, for me and from my own experience, are just more appropriate for video games and home entertainment, despite PCs having advantage in video hardware. Never cared to build a gaming rig in my life.
Games are, after all, are classified as 3d rendering programs.

EDIT: This was the guy. 450 mhz AMD K-6, 96 mb RAM, 14 GB HDD, DVD-ROM (my old Man was pretty lucky, that shit was expensive) and a HUUUUUGE CompUSA 19" CRT :stuck_out_tongue: And Altec Lansing 5.1 with a subwoofer. All as one sweet “internet PC” (it was labeled like this, but we did not have a connection back in the day) package.

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