The fact that pc users are dwindling has always been stunningly apparent, the only part that is arguable is whether or not they are the inferior system.
Pretty stupid thing to say, but if that means MS won’t release anymore of their games for PC then who gives a fuck?
New Age of Empires is still coming so :awesome:
Wow… I guess it’s official… I’m really and truly “hardly anyone”.
Wait… that’s almost as cool as being “nobody”… RIGHT ON!!! :meh:
OldDirtyBastard:
Definition of a fanboy:
- A person who is completely loyal to a game or company reguardless of if they suck or not.
Check - A pathetic insult often used by fanboys themselves to try and put down people who don’t like whatever it is they like.
Check
One fun thing is, I don’t know anyone who prefers the console over the PC.
There are a shitload of public LAN parties. All my friends use the PC (I’m 16) and I pretty much believe that PCs will stay the way they are 
Consoles used to challenge the developers to cram as much game as they could in a small space. Not anymore- That died from the mainstream consoles with innovation. If someone can put no effort into making a small, innovative game and still make money, why wouldn’t they?
The games industry is no longer an artistic thing as a whole. Only a few companies are still allowing the developers to make things for the sake of creating something great, and the rest (EA, Microsoft, anyone) just care about money. It’s sad, for me, because I love seeing innovation, seeing something new. Hardly anyone does that anymore. The only ones I can think of off the top of my head are Valve, and to a smaller extent, Nintendo. And surprise surprise, what companies to I see as having quality games? Valve, Bethesda, Bioware, and Nintendo. The Innovators and the ones who create quality, in-depth stories you can immerse yourself in.
I don’t hold consoles or PCs above each other. I prefer PCs, for everything but platformers, but neither, when you look at it, is better or worse on it’s own. It’s the developers who make or break a platform, and they can break it at any time if they fail to care about the games.
^ The above statement is correct. ^
*PC Gamers
You’re fucking stupid if you think people are buying less computers.
People are buying more computers than ever now. They’re just not using it for gaming.
At least not for hardcore gaming.
That is the type of crap I would expect from the retards at M$.
Depends of what you mean by a far more vast array of options.
If you mean modding communities, I would be stupid to deny that PC games are far more accessible than console games right now. But I can see consoles catching up pretty soon. I’ve already mentioned UT 3 as an example, which is not much for the moment, but I can pretty much see it expanding.
I could also agree about dedicated servers, as the majority of console games does not support them. But UT3 steps forward again. You CAN run a dedicated server for PS3 users, from the console itself.
https://forums.epicgames.com/showthread.php?t=591827
You can also have an option to create a PC based dedicated server for consoles only.
Likewise, I can see major improvements over the time.
I have not played UT 3 on XBox360 but I’ll hazard a guess and say that it must be the same.
Other than that, and more powerful hardware on PC hand, I don’t see a super-mega drastic advantage (maybe if you really do expand Maxey, instead of accusing me of jumping around the bush reusing old arguments), especially considering that we discuss long-term, at least I do.
While PCs have pretty much reached their pinnacle as a gaming platform (correct me if I’m wrong, I cannot see anything more revolutionizing on the horizon after Steam), consoles are still playing catch up, and as an owner of a PS3 for quite a long span, I like what I’m seeing so far. It has improved DRASTICALLY over the years. You can’t compare a disaster (well, it was tolerable for me to be fair) PS3 was in the beginning with a fantastic platform it is now.
Maybe all I’ve said so far has more to do with the fact that I’ve pretty much abandoned PC gaming ever since we brought a PS3 to our home. I did not really want to invest into a new PC hardware when i could just buy a game I wanted for PS3. My younger 11-year old brother, on the contrary, insists that he hates it (despite the fact that he constantly comes to play GRID, Tekken 6, UT3, FIFA and Motorstorm) and plays CS: S instead.
They still do. As much as you may hate it with every bit of your soul, Halo Reach. You have to be a blind hater not to see a significant improvement graphics wise.
Also, ITT: bunch of PC cunts getting apeshit about a couple of statements of mine that contradict with their precious personal beliefs. With Maxey being pretty much the only exception. Boo fucking hoo.
Seriously though, if you want a normal thought provoking debate, at least have some common decency not to jump on HURR DURR sheep/fanboy bandwagon, you little shits. If you can’t stand what I have to say - sod off.
But I guess that I’m asking too much from this community of raging nerds.
I’m beginning to see ODB’s point.
The PS3, i don’t know anything about the XBox, is getting much more advanced since the first time I played it, and I mean a lot. As soon as I found out that PS3 has dedicated servers it was pretty easy to do the math and figure out that consoles are catching up to the PC. Fast.
Although I like the PC more this is whats happening.
Oh and one more thing Maxey, while I completely understand where you are coming form, is is a bit naive, since you cannot possibly have both striding alongside, provided that the console gaming have seen such a revolutionizing boost with the introduction of “next-gen”. If PCs and Consoles would stride alongside as it was before, hypothetically it would rule out PS3 and XBox360, leaving console gamers with Wii. Sorry, but DO NOT WANT.
After all, you can’t deny console gamers high-end HD experience. Freedom of choice. You can see how the actual situation turns out to be so much trickier than it seems at initial glance.
I understand you complaints, it always sucks to be in the minority. We’ve all more or less been there at least once in our life. But you have to move on to more important things in our lives. It’s not the end of the world.
I hope you understand what I have to say.
I’ve had some time to think about it, and when you look at consoles and PCs in a purely gaming comparison, consoles DO end up gaining features PCs have, but they still play a catch-up game.
PCs get better features first, but consoles do eventually get them.
You can appreciate the trickiness of such a big business now.
So I would not blame the corporations, after all, it’s still THEM who get the nail on the head with all the criticisms and punts. Just imagine walking in the shoes of some marketing director. I honestly don’t envy those guys.
What I appreciate is them bringing gaming to a more mainstream level, what I don’t appreciate is the slowing-down of innovation and technical advances compared to the PC.
It’s a simple fact; where would you see more technical innovation?
A] A system that is upgraded once every few years (console) or
B] A constantly advancing system (PC)
and soon Crysis 2 will come and pwn consoles
ODB, you’re so damn stubborn, I mean come on.
Oh, and don’t accuse other people of being a fanboy, if you’re one yourself!
Well of course, from hardware point of view, PC wins. Devs get A LOT of spare room.
But as I’ve said already, for console video games, it’s down to developers to squeeze every last bit of the hardware. And with big companies, it has yet to fail to deliver. Just watch what they did with MGS: PW, on a fucking psp. It is indeed a challenge and I respect console game devs solely for this.
Which one do you prefer and appreciate more?
As much as it is undeniably awesome, I see the latest advances in PC hardware as an overcompensation right now. Some may need it, I won’t deny them a freedom of choice. For me, I am fine with HD and upscaling that consoles have to offer, and the efficiency that comes with it. Plus more and more flat screen TVs provide better support for HD/upscaling now. That technology improved quite a lot in the last couple years. As much as I would like to play a game with the graphics of JC’s Avatar (do not really care tbh), I see upscaling as a much more efficient solution for longterm.
P.S. Actually, as it was discussed in another thread, if you look at Crysis 2, Crytek took time to refine and optimize the engine, and it’s NOT because of the consoles. I remember them telling that gamers were never supposed to run the first one on very high. I guess that it was from their Crysis: Warhead promo interview for a magazine.
Not too mention its easier in some cases to develop for consoles. Companies don’t like spending a hell of a lot of money on developing a game for PC and then making a small profit compared to consoles due to piracy.
PC users are just in denial. Oh and, i’m a PC gamer btw.