Mac/Windows/Linux?

[loony636]

@Imonfire

IMO:
Having a Mac is like having an Audi R8 without steering. It can be powerful, but you’re extremely limited. You do what you want, but the way they want you to do it. So basically you can either go forward or backward, which is perfectly fine if you’re scared of fucking everything up.

Having a PC with Windows is like driving Subaru. It’s less pretty than the Audi, but still looks good. You can pimp it with whatever you want and make it more powerful than the R8 for less but if you don’t know anything there’s big chances it won’t even start. Aslo if you don’t know how to properly use it you might crash it into a wall and screw everything up. It also gets rusty pretty fast, which means you have to take it to the garage or do a little of maintenance yourself pretty often.

Having a PC with Linux is like driving a Russian tank. Only pros can really use it to the max, and if you do it’s super-duper powerful. Of course if you don’t know anything to it you might manage to drive around a bit but you’ll get bored after a few miles.

@Acristoff

I wouldn’t hate macs so much if it came on a disk, having to buy a new computer and having to pay ridiculous money to upgrade it is a huge step backwards.

And you don’t have to do that with Windows?

If you’ve already got a good solid Mac computer, you can be sure that it’ll keep you going for ages. I’ve got an anciently old Mac sitting in my room with OS X 10.4 and it still runs very well. Plus, you don’t get screwed up the wazoo with upgrade prices for new OSs.

@bob

Macs suck at playing DirectX games and crash within 15 minutes to an hour.
Windows outperforms Mac and is very good for gaming.
Linux has all sorts of programming tools built-in.

And your evidence for the first statement is? I know many people who play games on their Mac frequently, either natively, in Wine, through CrossOver, on Parallels and using Windows, all of which work excellently, if you’re willing to put about 20 minutes into setting them up properly (native games obviously don’t fit into this category). I’m going to buy myself a nice MacBook Pro in the next week or two, and after that I’ll let you know.

Your statement that “Windows outperform Macs” isn’t true at all, but of course, it depends on a) what PC you have b) what Mac you have and c) what operating systems you’re using. If you’re comparing a brand new PC to an anciently old Mac, then that’s probably true. However, if you take a Mac and a PC of similar specs, then I think you’ll find that Mac outperforms them every time (though I will have to double check this).

While its true that Linux is open source, that really doesn’t mean much for your average user. The beauty of Linux is a) that its free and b) that you can customise it a LOT.

Windows 7 is pretty good, but I’d take OS X over it any day.

[Imonfire]

@Level

TBQH, I’d prefer to have OSX over Ubuntu, but Ubuntu is so much easier to set up on my laptop. OSX is pretty solid to be honest, if you know how to use it, you can do just as much on it as linux, and potentially windows.

wwwwaaaaaaaaattt

You’re reversin’ some shit there. lrn2linux

[danielsangeo]

How about:

[saivert]

That is cross between Jeff Bridges! The TRON GUY! and office space milton

[Acristoff]

@loony636

And you don’t have to do that with Windows?

If you’ve already got a good solid Mac computer, you can be sure that it’ll keep you going for ages. I’ve got an anciently old Mac sitting in my room with OS X 10.4 and it still runs very well. Plus, you don’t get screwed up the wazoo with upgrade prices for new OSs.

No actually you don’t have to do that with windows (as windows isn’t providing the hard-ware), when you buy a computer (or build one) you can install whatever OS on it, except what Apple has, because they provide you with the hardware and don’t allow customization (unless you pay lots’a money, as opposed as to just buying the part you want and sticking it in there like a PC).

And I still stand with my opinion that having Apple do what it does with it’s hardware/software relationship is just a money-grab or completely stupid.

[bob]

@loony636

And your evidence for the first statement is? I know many people who play games on their Mac frequently, either natively, in Wine, through CrossOver, on Parallels and using Windows, all of which work excellently, if you’re willing to put about 20 minutes into setting them up properly (native games obviously don’t fit into this category). I’m going to buy myself a nice MacBook Pro in the next week or two, and after that I’ll let you know.

Your statement that “Windows outperform Macs” isn’t true at all, but of course, it depends on a) what PC you have b) what Mac you have and c) what operating systems you’re using. If you’re comparing a brand new PC to an anciently old Mac, then that’s probably true. However, if you take a Mac and a PC of similar specs, then I think you’ll find that Mac outperforms them every time (though I will have to double check this).

While its true that Linux is open source, that really doesn’t mean much for your average user. The beauty of Linux is a) that its free and b) that you can customise it a LOT.

Windows 7 is pretty good, but I’d take OS X over it any day.

You might as well stick with Parallels. I hear that it is the best but I stuck to a Bootcamped Windows XP and I had okay gaming experiences with it. I’ll probably download Black Mesa and test it on my Macbook just for laughs and then download and play it for real on my gaming PC that kicks my Macbook’s ass.

[Deathmonkey7]

@Ciledog

He is not trolling, Windows XP is a less demanding OS, which means more of your RAM can be allocated to your games.

Actually… DOS is far superior. Little to no RAM usage

[sersoft]

@Level

You best be trollin’ son.

@Ciledog

He is not trolling, Windows XP is a less demanding OS, which means more of your RAM can be allocated to your games.

This man speaks the truth. Ever since I installed windows 7 the games that require 2gigs of ram have gone from bad to worse, for example, I can play GTA 4 at 60FPS for a full 5 minutes before it runs out of ram and starts dropping to 0.01 fps every 2 seconds.

Windows readyboost helps on my laptop because I have a (class 6) 8gb SD card, but I don’t have an SDHC card slot on my desktop, so I can’t fix it for now.

[Dust]

This thread is full of win.

I love everyones take on Macs. Except the people that like them of course:meh:

[sanatorium]

@sersoft

This man speaks the truth. Ever since I installed windows 7 the games that require 2gigs of ram have gone from bad to worse, for example, I can play GTA 4 at 60FPS for a full 5 minutes before it runs out of ram and starts dropping to 0.01 fps every 2 seconds.

Windows readyboost helps on my laptop because I have a (class 6) 8gb SD card, but I don’t have an SDHC card slot on my desktop, so I can’t fix it for now.

You shouldn’t be running Vista/7 with any less than 4GB in the first place. If you are still on 2GB stick with XP.

[loony636]

@Acristoff

No actually you don’t have to do that with windows (as windows isn’t providing the hard-ware), when you buy a computer (or build one) you can install whatever OS on it

My point was that, if you want to get a new Windows operating system, you’ll most likely have to buy a new computer/substantially upgrade your old one to get it.

You can buy Mac on a disk, you just can only install it on other Macs.

@Acristoff

except what Apple has, because they provide you with the hardware and don’t allow customization (unless you pay lots’a money, as opposed as to just buying the part you want and sticking it in there like a PC).

Speaking from a laptop perspective, Macs really don’t cost that much more than the equivalent PCs. The current laptop I’ve got, which is an HP Compaq 6910p cost about $1600 about 2 years ago. The Mac I’m going to buy costs about $1800.

Macs do allow customisation, you just have to press the little “customise” button on the website. After you’ve bought it, you can’t upgrade all of the parts like the processor, but I know you can upgrade the hard disk or RAM if you so desire, and those are the two most common parts I ever replace in a computer.

@Acristoff

And I still stand with my opinion that having Apple do what it does with it’s hardware/software relationship is just a money-grab or completely stupid.

And Microsoft’s products aren’t just a blatant money grab? Excuse me while I go replace my Vista with an actual functional product. For an extra $300. Oh joy, now I have the computer I should have had 2 years ago.

shrug Its a different model. The computers that they make look better, weigh very little and cost just a little bit more than the equivalent PCs. You’re also going to get a lot of longevity; Macs stay compatible long into the future, and they still run very well.

There’s no reason to hate Macs; they’re cool, sleek, fast and are increasingly competitive with Windows. One of the reasons Windows 7 looks so good is because they took the good ideas from Mac and integrated them. Its good because it stops Windows from becoming stagnant and forces it to advance, meaning that as consumers, we get the best of all the worlds.

You’ve got three operating systems that give you an unprecedented ability to choose what you want to do. If you want something cool and functional, you can go with a Mac. If you want to go on the cheap, then you can go with Linux. If you like that sort of thing, then you can pick Windows.

[danielsangeo]

@loony636

Excuse me while I go replace my Vista with an actual functional product. For an extra $300. Oh joy, now I have the computer I should have had 2 years ago.

Fail.

I use Vista daily without a single problem.

[Acristoff]

@loony636

My point was that, if you want to get a new Windows operating system, you’ll most likely have to buy a new computer/substantially upgrade your old one to get it.

You can buy Mac on a disk, you just can only install it on other Macs.

Speaking from a laptop perspective, Macs really don’t cost that much more than the equivalent PCs. The current laptop I’ve got, which is an HP Compaq 6910p cost about $1600 about 2 years ago. The Mac I’m going to buy costs about $1800.

Macs do allow customisation, you just have to press the little “customise” button on the website. After you’ve bought it, you can’t upgrade all of the parts like the processor, but I know you can upgrade the hard disk or RAM if you so desire, and those are the two most common parts I ever replace in a computer.

And Microsoft’s products aren’t just a blatant money grab? Excuse me while I go replace my Vista with an actual functional product. For an extra $300. Oh joy, now I have the computer I should have had 2 years ago.

shrug Its a different model. The computers that they make look better, weigh very little and cost just a little bit more than the equivalent PCs. You’re also going to get a lot of longevity; Macs stay compatible long into the future, and they still run very well.

There’s no reason to hate Macs; they’re cool, sleek, fast and are increasingly competitive with Windows. One of the reasons Windows 7 looks so good is because they took the good ideas from Mac and integrated them. Its good because it stops Windows from becoming stagnant and forces it to advance, meaning that as consumers, we get the best of all the worlds.

You’ve got three operating systems that give you an unprecedented ability to choose what you want to do. If you want something cool and functional, you can go with a Mac. If you want to go on the cheap, then you can go with Linux. If you like that sort of thing, then you can pick Windows.

One big hole in that whole thing is that Macs require a “proffessional” to do it. You don’t have to buy a new PC to install windows unless you are coming from a mac. Also no one was forced to buy Vista, I didn’t and now I went to Windows 7. At least Microsoft gives me the freedom to change to Linux or any other OS that I want, while Macintosh restricts that option to only mac-computers.

And the reason I mentioned that it was a money-grab was that Apple-fanboys are usually in the belief that their company has no flaws while the other just tries to physically rape as much money out of your wallet as possible. (the hip-thrust is actually quite amazing!)

Also those Mac commercials, 'nuff said.

[Will89]

@loony636

Speaking from a laptop perspective, Macs really don’t cost that much more than the equivalent PCs. The current laptop I’ve got, which is an HP Compaq 6910p cost about $1600 about 2 years ago. The Mac I’m going to buy costs about $1800.

I couldn’t help but laugh at this… Oh wait, you’re serious?

[Brother_Shrike]

@loony636

…about 2 years ago…

FAIL. now it would cost probably ~$800-1000. Post the specs of the old laptop and the mac.

[Deathmonkey7]

I can’t help but lol at everyone trying to defend their wasted money. A Macbook with specs similar to a competing PC laptop will cost you nearly 3 times as much. Really? You say you can justify that? I haven’t seen it yet ITT.

[danielsangeo]

I have a question about the “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” commercials. I have watched at least a dozen of them. Is their biggest selling point really “Buy Mac: We’re Not Windows”?

[bigfan421]

no it’s: “Buy a Mac, We’re ‘Better’ than windows”
though their commercials have tapered since the launch of windows 7

[Door]

@bigfan421

“Buy a Mac, We’re ‘Better’ than windows”

Well, in my experience better at crashing.
I still have no idea what caused the system to malfunction, all I did was start iTunes and MacOS X Leopard crashed :retard:

[sersoft]

@sanatorium

You shouldn’t be running Vista/7 with any less than 4GB in the first place. If you are still on 2GB stick with XP.

But it’s an awesome OCZ dual channel 1066Mhz kit.

:’(

Anyway I obtained a pretty fast 2gb USB device today that works with readyboost, so I’m hoping for less lag since all the windows files are not gonna use my ram while playing games.