HL2 Ep3 plot speculation thread (NO SILLY THEORIES)

How many people wanna bet that the final game won’t live up to any concept art we’ve seen of it?

clearly you misunderstood some of what I wrote:

  1. Judith, if she is a former scientist of Aperture Labs, would explain the how and why of her expedition to the Borealis. Why else would she just up and run off to the Arctic without telling Eli and Isaac about her motives?
  2. I added Kelly Bailey to the mix for the sake of humor (obviously lost), and yes the appearance of Shephard is far-fetched, but really not any more so than Chell or Atlas & P-body making an appearance. You should be more openminded about it…
  3. One of these days, gmod is going to have Launch-Able Lemons. Excuse me if someone has made them already :smiley:
  4. been there, done that
  5. Because taking an old helicopter (chinook?) and flying to the Arctic isn’t any less dangerous? Have you seen a gunship or hunter-chopper lately? Not to mention Advisors themselves, who can also (telepathically?) fly? That Advisor from the ending scene of Episode 2 that gets its arm torn off is probably pissed. Probably
  6. What? Did you have a bad experience on a train? Poor you! Have some cake instead?
  7. As with my first theory, you misunderstood what I wrote; I stated that WITH the coordinates, Eli & Magnusson could use the Xen-relays and some sort of old-world targeting satellite to make an exit point for the teleporter.
    This would save them the surely dangerous trip from White Forest to the Borealis.
    8 ) Look up Richtofen on wikipedia if you don’t know. But the thought of a device capable of making singularity events, multiple events or one large event, is a scary power have around let alone use. However, it would clean up the whole mess awfully nice to have the Combine homeworld/dimension erased from existence. But, that would also be too clean-cut of an ending in terms of storyline.
  8. Could Repulsion Gel spell death to an Advisor?

thanks for the youtube link!

Next time, come up with your own insults though.
I’m a little saddened that you didn’t even TRY to come up with some counter-ideas or thoughts.
All you were able to produce with your own mind was “huh.”
Maybe a “huh?” like you couldn’t comprehend the text?
Maybe a “huh…” as if the light bulbs have indeed burnt out?
Maybe a “huh.” because someone just hit you over the head?
Maybe a “huh!” knowing that your ideas can’t be any better than mine ?

Hey, crazier shit in real life has happened…
But, I guess in a game crazy, yet barely plausible, plot twists can’t…

What’s with all the closed minds on here?

dunno if this has already been posted before or not, but I just stumbled upon this while looking for a reference image for a map.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pictures-japan-sewer-2011-1#-3
look familiar? lol

The edit button is your friend.

So is the +quote button.

:meh:
It was more like “Huh.” as in, “Huh. I sure do wonder what HE’S smoking.”

How the hell are they going to drive to the arctic from goddamn Europe, man? Also, Judith is AT the Borealis. Eli and Kleiner knew exactly where she was going, so by extension, THEY know where the Borealis is too. She is also NOT Chell’s mother, because Chell is Hawaiian and Judith is obviously not. And seriously? Meeting ATLAS in the Borealis? The robot that hasn’t been INVENTED YET? And using Voyager II as a RELAY POINT? Voyager II would be well outside the Solar System by the time Half Life 2 takes place (And the part about Wheatley is just Dumbfuck-tarded) and to use it as a relay point, you’d still require the luxury of… Wait, teleporting them? They clearly establish in the game that you need two teleporter machines to teleport someone, it’s not just some point and click thing where you can just materialize someone without having a receiving end that’s up and running. Theory number 9 is the worst type of insane babble I’ve ever heard. What’s more, Black Mesa invented the Gluon Gun and Displacer Cannon in the late nineties, so why would they be in an Aperture vessel that presumably set sail in the eighties according to Portal 2? And no. Repulsion gel doesn’t do anything to things that DON’T TOUCH THE GROUND.

Here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLrpBLDWyCI&list=PL24EE1A34E0F7BFDF&index=6&feature=plpp_video

It appears part of Europe is in the Arctic Circle. I have no idea how they’ll get to northern Europe from non-northern Europe.

I think that the entire plot of Half-Life, Half-Life 2 and its episodes is one long hallucination. Gordon Freeman is clearly suffering from severe radiation sickness after being exposed to the poorly contained radioactive material in the lower levels of Black Mesa, thus the entire saga is simply a fabrication of Freeman’s mind.

The whole thing was sort of obvious, I mean aliens, robot dogs, zombies don’t exist in real life and strange talking men in business suits tend to give news reports instead of teleporting around the place stopping time. Besides, why else would Gordon not say a word to anyone? Its because he is the one dreaming and everyone knows you don’t speak in your dreams.

I think that towards the start of Half-Life 3 Gordon will begin to realise he is dreaming and will unsuccessfully attempt to wake up only succeeding when the helicopter he is travelling to the Arctic in crashes, killing him along with the rest of the crew. Waking up he will find himself in a hospital being treated for radiation sickness, however he realises that the real Black Mesa will be carrying out a teleportation test the same as the one that caused the resonance cascade in his dreams. Fearful that his hallucinations will become a reality Gordon, escapes from the hospital and again exposes himself to radiation, re-entering his dreams in an attempt to plant an idea (stopping the test) in the mind of Dr Kleiner (Kleiner being the last of Black Mesa’s senior scientists still asleep, Breen and Vance both having woken up at the same time as their deaths in Gordon’s dream). With the help of Alyx, g-man (who turns out to be Gordon’s own concious thus explaining his supernatural abilities) and Leonardo Di Caprio, Gordon successfully plants the idea in Dr Kleiner’s head therefore preventing the resonance cascade and the devastation of Earth. Gordon once again wakes up in a hospital, but due to the effects of radiation he is close to death. Desperate to know if he was successful he telephones Dr Breen who informs him of that the scheduled teleportation test has been permanently delayed upon the advice of Dr Kleiner. Relieved but with his health failing, Gordon telephones a young Alyx and divulges his story in the hope that she believe and thus remember him. Gordon then dies.

I cant stop thinking about the Borealis, especially the references we might see to Aperture technologies throughout the ship. The big prize- whatever we heard about in Episode 2- is obviously (though maybe not) some sort of portal technology. But hell, it could be anything.

My guess is that it’s a super weapon that uses portal technology- millions of times more powerful than a nuclear bomb and you can send that blast anywhere you want from the comfort of your control panel. After all, Aperture was a DoD contractor too (honestly, I prefer them over Black Mesa just as I prefer Lockheed Martin over Boeing). That would threaten (and scare the pants off of) the Combine all right. It could also be very experimental and prone to malfunctions, explaining why Eli Vance wants to destroy it.

That would take up the vast majority of the cargo hold. Then there could be a few other areas with misc. experiments/projects.

We might see some older version of the portal gun lying around or in a container of some kind- maybe something like that backpack of a gun depicted on the sign proceeding the first repulsion gel test chamber in Portal 2. We would not get to use it (save the portal guns for Portal games), it would just be a reference. There may be other things on the ship that are merely eye candy- think of Issac or Eli’s lab from HL2. Also, remember the food projects from Portal 2 ARGs? We might see a reference to those.

We would also see some hilarious motivational posters from Aperture. We will get a chance to pass by the restrooms on the ship, and there will be a shower room, and we’ll see original Aperture shower-curtains! I really hope Valve gives us some laughs on the ship- Aperture Labs without humor is like Half Life 2 without creepy environments or head crabs.

Personally I don’t think the G-man works for anyone, and the restrictions he talks about are in reference to the Vorts. I think he uses words in order to masquerade his true intents and nature. In reference to G-man, there is an interesting theory I had the other day.

At the start of Dark Energy as we are being hovered into Breens office you can hear him talking about what is seemingly Xen, and talking of vast bodies with consciousness or something along those lines. Personally I think this is a direct reference to the Gman.

Look for walkthroughs of HL-2 chapter Dark Energy. Right at the start. You’l have to listen closely. I don’t know how to listen to game sound files on their own.

On the Borealis, I personally don’t think Judith was at it when she sent the message. I’m going to bet she was at a makeshift camp set up near it, made once Aparture found where it had teleported. It and it’s inhabitants left stranded once the seven hour war started.

My guess is the teleporter is simply a teleporter, wanted by the Combine for its technology and potential ability to call in reinforcements. While Eli wanted it destroyed because it threatens to unleash either more Combine, another Resonance Cascade or both.

The G-man will want you to destroy it, destroying the Combines possibilities of teleporter technology on earth. To make sure you do this he’l make sure Alyx life is forfeit should you not do as he wishes.

Also, there is no reference anywhere that you need a reciever end for teleportation, it merely helps when wanting to go back and forth between two places. Numerous times we are teleported without a reciever. The Borealis itself clearly didn’t have one.

As for Portal/Apareture easter eggs. I personally don’t want the Borealis to be loaded with them. Perhaps have on room with some, I especially like the shower curtain idea. However I think overloading it with references will really dampen the mood.

Yeah fair point.

I don’t think that Breen was talking about Xen. I believe he was talking about the Combine homeworld.

I agree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbNBDYSEu9g

Morley’s

Hmm, maybe all the ice that’s up there??? Also, the Combine have been draining the world’s oceans, so it would be plausible to have a land route.

Like I said before, crazier shit HAS happened in real life! Chell looks more like an Asian/white mix; possibly an eastern European/Chinese mix.

You’re wrong about the need for a receiving end with the teleporters; Xen, and a few of the test labs from the Lambda Core chapter (HL1) had stabilized exits that lacked the machinery to keep them so.

Think about it: if the Gman’s real (possibly non-human) body was being stored in the ship with the threat of someone possessing or destroying it, could create a position of leverage with him. The thought of having the Gman at Gordon’s mercy would be a major plot twist…

Did you not play Portal 2? IT’S A GEL, therefore you could probably fire globs/a stream of it at a moving, non-“on the ground” target. What’s to say you couldn’t fill a Magnusson device with some gel, then launch it at an Advisor?
Also, there’s a part where Cave Johnson states that Repulsion gel “dislikes” the human skeleton, and another part where he says that Conversion gel has made him deathly ill… So it’s feasible that any of the gels could spell death to an Advisor. Or at the least enough discomfort to loosen their telepathic grip on you so you can shoot at them…

Stop being so conservative with your ideas.
Please.

I agree. The Borealis took part of the dry dock with it when it disappeared. It’s possible she’s in a building that used to be part of the dry dock, or they’re just holed up in a building near where the ship reappeared.

I would think, say, opening a portal to a planet’s core and letting the insides flow out would do a hell of a lot more damage in the long run. You gotta think bigger than simple explosions if you’re building a superweapon based on portal technology :stuck_out_tongue:

That, or it could teleport large areas somewhere else in many different pieces. Say, moving a city into outer space, but not putting any of the molecules back together. Instant space dust, no fallout, you can immediately move in and put whatever you want there.

I wish cleaning my house was that easy!

Gravity Gun + Portal Gun = best moving company ever

Nobody’s being conservative… we’re just being realistic. Your ideas make no sense; do you really think it is practical to drive to the Arctic? Where the hell would you get gas? I could go on, but i’m not going to waste my time with someone who can’t look at things realistically.

Well it seems that a Military Helicopter has a potential flying range of between 750 and 1000 miles.

Assuming that City 17 is somewhere in Eastern Europe, like Minsk in Belarus it wouldn’t even make it to Murmansk in Northern Russia without refueling.
Since the world is likely to still be combine controlled we cannot guarantee that they will have somewhere safe to refuel.

If City 17 is somewhere more northern, possibly Tallin in Estonia the Helicopter still wouldn’t make it far enough north and would end up ditching into the sea north of Norway.

Basically, if we refuse to suspend disbelief, they must refuel at least once if they ever want to make it to the Boreallis in the Arctic. The Boreallis also has to be pretty close to the north of Norway or Russia or else they’d never be able to reach it realistically.

The Borealis could be anywhere in the Arctic, it doesn’t have to be on the North Pole. I think its probably somewhere in northern Russia.

However you are right about them having to refuel several time. The helicopter that Alyx managed to secure was a Mil Mi-8 which has a range of only 450km. This means that it would have to be refuelled a minimum of two times depending on the location of City 17 and the Borealis.

The real question is why and how all the guys from Black Mesa ended up in eastern Europe in the first place, considering it’s practically on the other side of the planet compared to the Black Mesa Research facility. Has this been answered somewhere already, or are we going to find out in HL3/EP3?

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