HL: overrated or not, aka. HL3 the savior or a failure?

Half-Life Series
#381

@ Idclip, Thats the whole point, unless it comes from Valve directly it is baseless speculation. “c’mon its OBVIOUS that this thing is going to happen, just look at all the non information we have, and gabe hammering on a crowbar! it must mean what I think it means!”

@ dotard, Gabe has not called it Half life Three. He only says he will not talk about HL3. A vague negative statement is not proof

One actual Quote or interview or statement or video or anything Officially from Valve or Gabe or Doug or Marc and I will admit all you folks are right. Otherwise, just keep fappin’ 'cuz thats all it will be

#382

So far the Breen-advisor theory is really nothing more than idle speculation and vague hints. I’m suggesting that maybe it should stay that way. Furthermore, I’m expecting a lot to be revealed about G-man in HL3.

The comment about ‘these forums’ was just a cheap shot. :stuck_out_tongue:

#383

holy fucking christ guys, who gives a shit

the difference is a number, a word and a colon, that’s it

#384

Bur’s right. It’s going to be named the way Valve likes, which means it’s a little bit like Schrodinger’s cat. Both Episode 3 and HL3 until one gets confirmed…

Yeah, the similarity between the two isn’t major, but it exists.

#385
#386

Not really, the difference goes a way beyond how it is or isn’t called…

Episode Three = conclusion to HL2 story arc, Borealis only, 4-5 hours short.
HL3 = long game, new gameplay features, new engine, story and setting other than Borealis related.

#387
#388

No, this is what I expect:

It makes far, far more sense that they’ll abandon the episodic release plan but keep the story.

#389

Pyro, I’m afraid you’re going to need way more than that to explain this to Dotard…

#390

Not really, there’s no sense in him explaining me something I get, that doesn’t mean Valve agrees with his sentiments.

#391

Valve is a very smart company, and the developers know how to tell a story.

Skipping the finale of a long-running storyline for reasons of semantics is not how you tell a story.

#392

Well, I wanted to share my concerns, but now that I see they were completely wrong, a stone has fell off of my heart.

#393

I think it’s a foregone conclusion that they have to finish the story arc. Valve may do unexpected things from time to time, but leaving the story at a huge cliffhanger like that makes zero sense. It also doesn’t make sense at this point to continue episodic content. The entire point of episodic content was to see if they could push smaller chunks of content out regularly, and that obviously didn’t work. Not that they can’t make deadlines if they want to; they proved to themselves they could with L4D2. But it clearly wasn’t compatible with what they wanted to do with Half Life (circumstances such as Culp’s death probably added to that). Taking all that plus the time factor into consideration, I do not see how anyone could expect the next Half Life to be a short game with completely familiar mechanics. Unless perhaps Valve were to perhaps release Episode 3 and Half Life 3 at the same time, or have the content that was planned for Episode 3 form the beginning of Half Life 3. I could see that.

#394

It’s easier to say than Episode 3? It’ll come bundled with Half-life 3?

I don’t know why you care.

#395

I can see them doing something like Metro 2033, starting you off after the Borealis, cutting to the prologue (episode 3) after some major event.

Valve will make it work. They always make it work.

#396

Starting it in media res might be interesting, but it’s not really how the storytelling in HL works.

#397

looks guys, it doesn’t matter one shit whether or not valve is a smart company, and neither does anything else

thing is, there will only be one next half-life game, and there will only be one continuation of Episode 2

whether it’s episodic or not doesn’t make any difference

#398

If the entirety of the next Half-Life game is at most three times Episode Two’s length, and a large fraction of its narrative points could be deduced from the end of Episode Two and the leaked concept art, then I will be shocked and sorely disappointed. I want a new game, not the end of an old one. If Half-Life Two Episode Three comes out, make it a free demo for Half-Life Three that wraps up the episodic story arc. Because I do want to see an Episode Three concluding the episodic story arc, but I want to see an all-new Half-Life Three much, much more. And they’re simply not compatible existing in the same game.

#399

They could just finish the Borealis story and make it go on from there, or even make the combine teleport the shi[ away at the start and make the rest of the game about getting it back, leading up to an epic confrontation on the combine overworld.

You people are being awfully close-minded about all this.

#400

The leaked art looked very good. I would love a game based on those lines because then we can get some closure before launching off into the much-ballyhooed HL3.

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