Gun Control

Of course I do not think it is a great idea for people to posses terrible weapons capable of mass destruction, just as I do not think it is good for governments to own said weapons. However, history proves that prohibition always fails. Banning weapons, any weapons always leads to a black market. Black markets lead to untraceable sales of said weapons. So I think that if something exists it should be allowed for sale, at least legality = regulation.

So one has to be a republican to own a gun eh?

So, you’re for fine with something like child pornography.

way to digress :wink:

On a totally unrelated note, this vid still tickles me :smiley:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBHtjZmSpw

I loves ma gun

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Of course not. Child pornography is inherently a violation of rights. A child cannot consent to such an act.
If someone wished to simply own a nuclear warhead or something on par, there is no harm being done. Now, if someone uses said warhead to commit murder, well, we already have laws against murder.
Should we make anything illegal that can be used to commit mass murder? How about gasoline and nails? How about any ingredients that can be used to make bombs or deadly chemicals?

Because maybe we should have fought the revolution with sticks and stones and naught words eh?

But if you make child pornography illegal, then there will just be a black market for it. Black markets lead to untraceable sales of said child pron. So I think that if something exists it should be allowed for sale, at least legality = regulation.

amirite?

American revolution = europeans warring with other europeans so they can stop paying taxes and keep the slave trade going strong

both assholes

Only is you are a nihilist with no sense of human rights. As I said, child abuse is a violation of a child’s rights, owning weapons does not equal murder. Just as owning a car does not equal vehicular murder. You are not right.

Well, that kind of destroys your argument then, doesn’t it?

Uh, no. Take a logic class please.

Uh, yes. You said that murder was already illegal but those laws don’t stop people from murdering. And, by the way, this is your logic. If you think it’s flawed, well…

That does not mean we should not have laws against murdering. Laws should serve to protect human rights, and that is all. Child porn completely violates a child’s rights. Passing a ban on guns not only infringes on property rights but it also bans something that is only a tool which CAN be used to hurt someone, just like a car or hammer or knife. The act of owning a gun or bomb does not exclusively violate human rights, child porn does.

Clear?

Child porn doesn’t always violate human rights if it’s a cartoon or a 3D computer generated figure where there is no actual human being involved.

But back on topic, a gun is a weapon, full stop. A car is not. A hammer is not. A knife (depending on what kind it is) is not. You can’t compare something designed to be a weapon with something that isn’t designed to be a weapon. Your logic is highly flawed here.

But, let me get you on record that you’d be just fine with some yahoo with a suitcase nuke going through the streets of downtown as long as he doesn’t mean to hurt anyone with it, am I right?

If child pron is drawn, or animated, then who cares? No one was hurt in the process right? I think it is disgusting, but no one had their human rights violated.

A gun is not a weapon, full stop. I use my guns for target shooting, for collecting etc… I also use them for deer hunting, which hurts no humans. A gun is a tool which can be used to kill men, like a car but has many other uses. BTW, cars kill more people than guns. But say you are correct, should we ban swords, nunchucks, clubs, etc?

If someone wants to walk the streets with a “suitcase nuke” as long as he has no intention of hurting anyone, I would feel uncomfortable yes, but it should his right to do so.
Why does it make you feel safe that a yahoo like G W Bush, Barack Obama or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has the launch code, but a citizen makes you fear for your life? Do you think heads of state are anymore trustworthy? They are all men.

wow.

This is the government you trust to govern your personal use of weapons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

Later altered to a shoulder fired version.

So, you’re fine with some forms of child pornography being legal.

That’s the very definition of a “weapon”, though. Anything designed for destruction of a target is a weapon, whether the target is a tin can on a fence, a deer, a building, a bridge, or another human. Bombs are used to destroy major pieces of infrastructure such as bridges during a war. If the bomb kills not a single human, is it not a weapon?

You really can’t get off that talking point, can you? It’s a flawed analogy and makes me :what: every time I see it

So, you’re fine with people carrying suitcase nukes.

LOLWUT

Um. Life is not a Hollywood movie.

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Hollwood movies are the only places that the state commits atrocities?

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