Girl Advise

Why should he? This is the interwebz.

I think you mean:

Catz strikes again.

Don’t worry about the :hmph::hmph::hmph::hmph: smiley - I’m addicted to using it due to the high concetrations of awesomeness.

I have a question because, surprisingly I have never asked a girl this, I’ve always meant to…so here is a good chance.

What’s with girls and being drawn to gay guys? I mean, girls tend to ignore me for the most part but when they do find out I am Bi/Gay they are all over it. Same deal if I’m alone or with my buddies on campus, I could be invisible to a lot of girls, but if I’m with my boyfriend, they all have something to say.

I have always just assumed it’s because all of a sudden I’m non-threatening and won’t hit on them. Same reason I have heard for women to go to gay bars.

I would like to hear this from the Horse’s mouth.

I’m not a girl and technically shouldn’t be answering, but for the buddies on campus it’s probably because you went from “Random guy walking along path” to “OHMIGOD HE LIKES MEN”

I have a question. Why are women, in general, so fucking afraid of talking about anything real? If the conversation ever strays towards anything that could potentially expose true emotion on their part, they freak out and suddenly I’m creepy and they ignore me after that. It’s unbelievably hard to meet someone when the generation I live with is as shallow as a gasoline spill.

This really grinds my gears. People so often emphasize ‘getting out there and making the first move’, so when I actually make the first move and initiate a conversation, why is it so ok for people to coldly ignore me? I have no ulterior motives, and they seem to think I’m trying to rape them. Then 5 minutes later some douchebag pulls a really fucking offensive line on them and it WORKS. Is being genuine no longer how this whole ‘romance’ thing works? Do I have to be a rapist?

Maybe you’re insecure and paranoid?

wut

Damn you ballsopt, you ninja.

Hey, your opinions are appreciated too! The more opinions, the better we like it :wink:

I remember something that you said in that sex vs games thread and I think I know about some points made by her that you disagree. In case you wonder, I remember because I liked to hear (er… read) your opinion there :slight_smile:

I think it is because of the fear. People are afraid of people, so they build a barrier around them. I’ve heard the term “bubble”. And women have special reasons to be afraid of men. But that doesn’t include gay men, at least once they know about it.

The fear causes anger. That is why small dogs bark a lot. It is a mechanism of defense.

That is also probably why “nice guys” (or nerds, whatever) have problems talking to girls. They, or better, we are more sensible to someone staring us in a threatening way. We are weaker, in a sense. In my opinion, all we need to do is a little bit of courage, try harder and look for girls in the right place (not in a bar, for instance). That seems to be working out for me, well, kind of.

After all, people around aren’t as threatening as they seem sometimes. No one seem to dislike a smiling “good morning”, nor will anyone contain their laughs if you stumble in a rock in a weird way.

[COLOR=‘Black’]inb4 guys rehearsing stumbles to learn how to break the ice

As for girls and gay guys, well, isn’t it just usually easier for them to relate to? I don’t think fear is a factor, at least not from what i’ve observed.

Not necessarily, I actually find it quite hard to get on with girls.

I don’t know, I’ve always found it strange girls go for it. Maybe they can relate, but other than what happens between me and my BF, I really have 0 visible women-like qualities about me (I’ll admit that…). Yet girls still seem to want to be around and talk to me more once it’s out in the open. Also, I lived with another gay guy (random room assignment I swear) other than his BF, his only friends were girls. He did have the whole fashion obsession thing along with a very obvious lisp so all he had to do was open his mouth for anyone to figure out his preference :smiley:

I guess my most recent example was my spring semester Calculus class. There were two girls that always sat to my right and I was sitting next to this other guy I had other classes with before and got along with pretty well. The two girls initially completely ignored my attempts to make friends with disdain. By the time March came around and I had just met my current boyfriend, I was talking about him to the guy to my left just before class started. The girls obviously overheard the convo and turned to me and proclaimed to the entire class “Wait, you’re gay?! That’s so awesome!” After that, the two girls couldn’t go a few days without asking about my relationship and whatnot. Eventually made friends with them. I don’t really hold grudges, so it was easy to forgive them for treating me like junk.

I mean to me, that really seemed like once they found out I wasn’t sitting next to them to hit on them they were comfortable and let down their “bubble” so to speak. These elusive Women creatures should know the correct answer, I really just don’t get it. Maybe that’s why I go for guys…

Fag haaaaags. Thank god lesbians don’t get some creepy weird equivalent.

So, let me try a brief run-down of how things are going:

  1. As a man, you are expected to make the first move towards girls/women.
  2. As soon as a girl/woman figures you are hitting on her, you are scum for her, not worth dealing with.
  3. As soon as you say you are gay (whether you are or not), they will be absolutely all over you - wanting to get to know you closer - but not as close as you might want.

So, basically:

Women =/= Logic thinking

amirite?

women are trouble end of story

Sassy, if you disagree you need to post it gurl! Dont leave it all to ME to answer! post post post post (starts to chant)

DansonDelta40: We are here to find out more details on your number 2 point. Some of it is chemistry but some of it is not. Did a guy sashay up to a girl eeking of odor and a shy stammering boogar mouth expecting her to overlook the guy’s obvious desperation? Or does a guy actually take some respect in his body, approach and focus by offering his best side when attempting a conversation with a woman?

My dear… there is a reason a woman rebuffs a guy. We are all here to learn from each other and talk about ideas of why!

Friend of mine didn’t know what to say when he first met this girl (was a friend of an other friend of mine). So slightly panicky, he just threw out the words “I need to take a shit” (I kid you not) and rushed off.

3 years later they got married. They’re expecting their first kid in September.

I just died a little inside

:lol:

Incidentally, I said something similar as a joke to my current girlfriend a couple of weeks before she left her then boyfriend. Good stuff.

It’s a possibility. It still pisses me off how rude my generation is, as a whole. There isn’t really an excuse for it. For example, I got into a fight last week with one of my friends over something pretty stupid. I came to terms with how I was at fault, and sent her an apology message. She completely ignored it.

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