I honestly don’t think Cubbage knows anything about the G-Man, and given his eccentric megalomania I doubt he put much thought into the auspicious nature with which the G-Man appeared(ie. delivering the rocket launcher, which I suspect was G-Man’s reason for being at NLO).
Never mind the G-Man, what about his “employers”? Surely they’re more mysterious (admittedly only in HL1 and HL2, not Ep2, when you find you’re employed, maybe, by the vortigaunts) than him? Maybe his office seen in Ep2?
People are saying the G-Man can’t be Gordon because the Nihilanth says the g-Man is alien. Soo, what if Gordon’s an alien? (A far fetched theory I know, and i’m not supporting it, only pointing out where the theory has a loophole)
Also, I think Gordon’s being recruited as a mercenary
M’eh, not so interested in the Employers. Considering the G-Man is so sought after (likely for his powers/abilities) that they actually bid on his services (and surely this doesn’t constitute monetary gain) it brings into question what motives the G-Man could have for working with certain employers.
Not only that but he can bend the rules when it comes to the restrictions placed upon him and not worry too much (in fact it seems more of a game to him).
I think the motives are the most interesting thing to speculate on.
That said, there’s no way G-Man and Gordon are one and the same, I refuse to make the arguments because they’ve all been said.
And yes, Gordon is pretty well a mercenary, as he works for an agent who’s services are open to the highest bidder. Seems in keeping with the definition of mercenary.
mercenarys are usualy being the one paid, i think G-Man is the mercenary who uses other people to do his bidding, so the Vorts could have in some theory hired G-Man to free them from the combine. so G-Man sorta “pursuaded” Gordon… with death :meh:-.-… to do G-Mans work of saving teh vorts from the combine… and the vorts know it so now they help gordon
Why would the Vorts use Gordon to save themselves from the Combine when they’re trying to kill Gordon in HL1?
because in hl1 they ware controlled by nihinanth , now that he’s dead , they are free to think for theyselves , do you remember vortigaunts talking in hl1?
So the Vort’s hired G-Man to stop the Combine, but decided that before the job was done they would release G-Man’s main tool of doing such (Gordon for those of you who haven’t been paying attention) in order to do it anyways?
N’ah.
Further, I’m not fully convinced it was the Vort’s who hired G-Man in order to have themselves freed from Nihilanth. Considering who stood to gain from the destruction of Nihilanth, it seems more likely to me that it was the Combine. I say more likely as I don’t really believe that either, just pointing out how it doesn’t make sense to think it was the Vort’s.
maby it wasnt just nihilanth, remember that gordon was stasised for 20 years after HL1 maby after nihilanth was dead the vorts then hired G-Man/gordon to free them from combine…
just a thought maby breen hired G-Man to get rid of the combine, although was pretending to be in alegence (idk if thats spelled right) just to not be killed by them hoping gordon would succedee first
You missed my point. Why would the Vort’s free Gordon from G-Man’s control if they hired him to free them from the Combine especially before the Combine was actually defeated?
It just doesn’t stand to reason, as they could just have easily waited for Gordon to do the job, then if they still needed Gordon for something could have released him then.
It’s more likely that it was an as yet unseen organisation that hired the G-Man to stop the Combine, my theory is that whatever organisation it was, was afraid of the Combine acquiring the Portal technology the humans were making headway in.
“Do what I want or you die” makes Gordon sound less like a mercenary and more like a hostage, albeit a very strange kind of hostage.
Nevertheless (in canon) he accepted the offer regardless of the possibility that he might be forced to betray humanity, which was a distinct possibility.
But yeah, I prefer to refer to G-Man and by extension Gordon as “agents”.
Have you ever played this one game called Half-Life?
The Combine and the vorts/resistance may have each bid on the option of gordon and the vorts, being the highest bidder were afraid the combine would utilize his services next. Thats why they took him in episode 1.
So here is my thought. Maybe the g-man did do some work for the us govt. Maybe, in a way similar to the combine detecting the resonance cascade, the g-man detected the work of Black Mesa and Aperture Science. Maybe he offered the US some epic power and then gave them the krazy krystal that started the cascade. He seems to have no agenda but his own and not a care for the consequences of his actions. He seems to have no problem letting alyx die in the end of hl2, or letting black mesa and all the people in it be destroyed. Kinda Faustian if you ask me.
Gman is a terrorist
I would think, if the deal included the defeat of the Combine, that would preclude the ability for the Combine to hire G-Man to retaliate.
I doubt with utmost confidence that G-Man was ever in the service of the U.S. Government outside of using them to create the Resonance Cascade to begin with in order to set in motion the events that would lead to the destruction of Nihilanth.
It definitely appears that he doesn’t care for any agenda but his own (which remains a major question) but G-Man himself admitted that he’s willing to abide by certain restrictions, thereby negating the theory that he doesn’t care about the consequences, I think the fact that G-Man (who has shown that he does have some rather incredible powers/abilities) doesn’t directly intervene in any situation also shows this.
Kinda Faustian, but at least Mephistopheles gave the good Doctor a choice before the contract was signed.
The vorts freed gordon and reneged on their part of the deal. The deal was to kill breen and cut off the combine forces on earth. And gordons duties were done when the citadel's dark matter reactor blew in the end of hl2. The gman tries to take gordon away but the vorts had other plans. The idea of an unseen power setting up a resonance cascade to bring the combine to earth to fight them and prevent them from getting portal tech seems kinda complex and self defeating. But thats just me. Plus, the gman knows what the combine has planned, hence the warning of the consequences . The gman probably talks to the combine advisors. He might have even given eli's location to the combine for having let gordon go( if the combine were the next high bidder).
This makes the most sense and is therefore most likely the truth. All this stuff about reneging on contracts and stuff sounds quite nonsensical to me. Whatever the Vorts would have had to have paid G-Man to buy Gordon’s services would have been substantial. Considering the fact that they could just break Gordon out of stasis, what reason would they even have to possibly consider paying the G-Man’s demands? Fear? If they feared him so much they wouldn’t risk his wrath by interfering in his plans later on.
I contend that the Vorts had nothing to gain by working with the G-Man.
Good call, I forgot to take into account G-Man’s intervention when the reactor went.
Still, I think the Vort’s were entirely victims in this until they decided to create a gambit out of Gordon, I really don’t think they were in the position of buying G-Man’s services (ever). They gained just as much as the Resistance and everyone involved in putting down the Combine worked in tandem, Vort’s and Human’s alike.
It’s clear that some organisation is scared of The Combine acquiring the particular brand of teleportation technology the humans were working on and hired G-Man’s services to stop that from happening. Incidentally I think this is likely what happened with Nihilanth, as that was the Combine’s former teleportation device.
I love that this is how the G-Man works Although I don’t think the intention was to bring the Combine to Earth, they just took the opportunity when it arose, via the Portal Storms.
Brings us back to the most important question, what does G-Man have to gain?
Buckaroo Banzai is a great film btw, and Lithgow killed in that role.
Very few recognize my avatar, even fewer liked the film.
My speculation is based on valve cannon so for me there is only humans, vorts and combine. After all there was no hint at the combine in hl1 because valve didn’t write it yet. When and if they do, we both may be right
Well, I’m speculating on the canon too, I’m just theorising based on the information that can be gleaned from the games at this point, and really that’s what this thread is for, it’s fun to speculate.
I just personally find that the acquisition of portal technology is central to the story of Half-Life (really) and as can be interpreted at this point, no one wants the Combine to have it.