unless they reprogam it to send the combines into [COLOR=‘Cyan’]science and [COLOR=‘Red’]outer space …
I have often wondered if the gman had a role at apsci
Me too 
The only reason I would suspect that he had nothing to do with Aperture Science is they seemed focused (or at least were making major headway) in localised portal technology, where as the BMRF (whether on purpose or not) were creating portals to other dimensions.
I suspect this is what got the G-Man’s attention to begin with in deciding to use the BMRF to create the resonance cascade, rather than Aperture Science.
If G-Man knew about Aperture Science I would think he would have had foresight enough to secure that technology long before the Combine ever knew about the Borealis.
We have only seen localized portal tech. They were supposed to be a competitor of black mesa. The Gman could have easily given them something to “help” them like black mesa. Maybe he did “help them” and that is why the borealis went all Philadelphia experiment and got stuck in the ice. An early fuck up possibly? And as for foresight, its not like he saw the combine coming or “secured” the black mesa teleport tech before the combine showed up. That being said in the end of half life his goal of “securing the border world” happened due to gordon. This was his original objective. There is also no mention of combine in xen. Why not? Mossman said kliener’s teleporter uses xen as a slingshot. Maybe the gman had something to do with that discovery. The gman is after all in contact with cubbage. and eli knows (knew) him well.
What Black Mesa were doing was making headway in trans-dimensional portal technology (even though they were also doing some localized dabbling as well). From what we can gather thus far, Aperture Science was not, theirs was localized, and also locally localized (the portal gun being an example of the latter, Borealis the former).
Now I’m assuming that because Aperture Science never created a dimensional rift in their experimentations they never caught the G-Man’s attention. (Though the idea that the G-Man tried to use the Borealis to create a Resonance Cascade is an entertaining one, but it seems out of character for him to allow it to remain somewhere where anyone/thing could get their hands on it).
Either way, I’m looking forward to discovering what it was in Episode 3.
I actually think G-Man did see the Combine coming and saw yet another opportunity for himself, given G-Man’s ability to use teleportation (and on a grand scale, see the humanmilitary force with sand during the end of Half-Life which appear to have been teleported en masse) I’m sure he could’ve closed up the rift at any time, but that didn’t suit him.
I’m more inclined to believe that the destruction of Nihilanth was G-Man’s objective, as I mentioned there appears to be a good chance that another as yet unseen organisation(s) do not want the Combine possessing portal technology (Nihilanth being the former, the humans versions being the latter).
Nihilanth does make mention of the Combine (though cryptically and not by name).
It’s possible, but it doesn’t seem in keeping with G-Man’s character, his involvement in that would presume a reason for his doing so. I personally can’t think of a reason why it would have been -necessary- for the G-Man to help out the humans with their new version of the teleporter device (it doesn’t really move the story along from the G-Man side of things, it’s pretty clear only the Combine were interested in that technology).
I’d be more apt to believe that Kleiner and Vance had set up some sophisticated sensor equipment during the Portal Storms and from there put together their efficient model.
Along with Inter, I’ve had the mindset that Gman wanted the Nihilanth gone.
But what confuses me is that Gman provided Black Mesa with the crystal that opened the gateway to Xen. Why would he do that in the first place? Why give Xen a place to run to, unless he wanted Earth to fall as well? This is while he had no idea who Gordon Freeman was as well.
Ah, see but the thing is, there’s evidence that the BMRF had already made headway into Xen (I certainly think it could be interpreted as such), particularly in regards to the headcrabs being locked in those tubes, and the rooms that appeared to have houndeyes that were formerly caged. Then you have the extensive amount of dead researchers on Xen.
I suspect G-Man caused the Resonance Cascade in order to distract Nihilanth, have it so it’s focus was getting as much of it’s army across to Earth so that when time came to attack it, Nihilanth’s attention wouldn’t be focused enough to defend itself.
Yeah BMRF was already on xen before the resonance cascade, the crystal gordon pushes in was supposed to be a crystal obtained from xen.
And I think gman already had his sights on gordon and set up the whole thing for gordon to go through.
I wish shepherd would come into ep3, even for a brief moment. I think a great scene would be gordon dropping into the borealis, alyx behind him, not in the same room. gordon walks through the darkness and then a hecu marine jumps at him from infront with a pipewrench and the player has to fight him (But 1 hit kill), alyx jumps in and says, “what happened, who is he? he must have been down here for quite a long time” and they continue.
But it won’t happen X_X
Afaik the portals in HL1 also used the Xen-Borderworld (somewhere at lambda core i think it was mentioned).
I am very interested in his objectives and the restrictions. I mean, he was able to teleport himself into the citadel. Why didn’t he just teleported himself into the core control room and overloaded it? Maybe Gordon Freeman ist more important than the Citadel and it was more important to test and increase Gordons skills than bringing down the citadel.
And since when does he know Eli? Eli did not mention him in Black Mesa East, but he did in White Forest? Maybe he was unaware of his later involvement and just realized it when Alyx told him to “prepare for unforseen consequences”, that the G-Man was manipulating the situation.
A possible hint might be his reaction, after Alyx tells him that she found you in Episode 1. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD_UJktm6kU 4:26) He said he could not believe it. Maybe he was aware of the G-Man’s plans for Gordon. But that would mean that he is quite cold-hearted (or pessimistic if he thinks being in stasis is better than being on earth).
The next question is: Did the G-Man care about Eli? Why did he warn him and did not saved him from being killed by the Advisors. Maybe he just warned him to make warn Gordon.
Or the powers of the advisors is similar to the vorts powers and he was unable to interfere.
Does the G-Man care about people in general? He wanted to remove Gordon from the Citadel. That would have ment: “no dark energy core containment” --> A lot of City17 inhabitants would have died, for the reactor would have exploded sooner. He did not save Alyx. Maybe he would have saved her. He saved her from Black Mesa, as he told you in the heart-to-heart.
But HL2:Ep2 was released 3 years after HL2, so this was maybe a change in the canon.
Maybe he changes his mind. He seems very cold to us but he seems to have a great responsibility. He is certainly working for a greater good and thatswhy wasting people. He often seems cold but during his heart-to-heart he told you he has saved Alyx from Black Mesa and that he !wishes! he could do more. Maybe he feels sorry for his cold actions… Again this might be a change during the development but imho we should consider the last information as the right one.
@xilef: “Yellow Crystal”-samples may have been obtained from Xen, but your sample was purer than all other samples. It was given to Black Mesa by the G-Man. In that way he triggered to Resonance Cascade.
@mark84j: Maybe he watched Gordon Freeman before. Or he wanted to put all people at Black Mesa into this danger to find one that qualifies for his jobs. That seems a bit unlikely at the first moments but:
- there were some of the greatest minds at Black Mesa
- there were some of the most potent weapons at Black Mesa
- there were devices at Black Mesa that were designed to work at Xen (this jumping device, your suit…)
- there were some (maybe all) of the very few people at Black Mesa, who know something about Xen.
All the speculation really means nothing because valve writes as they go. There was no eli in hl1. Initially in hl2 eli was a crazy old white guy. Alyx’s dad was a resistance leader and there was no cubbage. Hence the thread about the gman. Valve writers probably read these threads for ideas. In hl1, the gman definitely seemed to work for the us,
even taking away all of gordons weapons “because after all they are government property”. On a side note, he let gordon keep the suit at the end of hl1. then kliener has it in hl2. Hmmmmmm?
In Valve’s defense I’m sure they have a more clear direction where they’re taking the story now (just seems to be the way to go when a supposed one shot meets great success read: Star Wars, though in light of the prequels my point looks terrible).
I personally never got the impression that G-Man was working for the humans (or for the benefit of them), after spotting a few times, I definitely got the impression that he/it was a very mysterious character.
As for the side note, it’s not uncommon for G-Man to ensure that certain parties get items of necessity (or that would at least help). Xen Crystal that created the Resonance Cascade, H.E.V. suit in H-L2, Rocket Launcher in H-L2. etc.
Gordon couldn’t be inserted into City 17 suit and all, that would have put the Combine forces on alert too early (presumably).
Apparently Valve has had a pretty clear direction all along when they moved onto HL2 (see: Raising the Bar), but including Eli and Dr Magnuson were characters they had to include for the sake of the storyline and making it plausible.
I’m hoping for a sense of “looking back” near the end of Ep3.
For instance, Gman has you exactly where he wants, and shows us the destruction of Black Mesa and the entrance of the Combine - all the way to this very moment. And all of it has played out perfectly as he’d planed.
It should be a very frightening experience when we find out what his true intentions are. The best way to end Ep3 would be to know that Earth is safe, but what Gman has to say makes us hang our head and go “oh damn.”
i strongly think now that the “unforseen consiquences” that gman was reffering into alyx’s ear towards eli ware his death , it’s like , planned n shit ,
from this point of view gman>advisors ! but those advisors seemd more likely to haunt for eli that time , rather than alyx and gordon ,since it threw them against the wall , but grabbed eli instantly , i think eli’s death was a more direct action of gman then it’s thaught
possibly could also have been the combine knowing Eli was one of the leader people and them just going after him and G-Man knowing this just warned them and possible i think the G-Man did give something to Aperture science because in portal. GLaDoS [i dont know which ones are capital but u know what i mean] turns evil and shit and kills everyone, i think that happens from G-Man even though they arent “intertwined” they could be in some sense of the same earth
How could they not?
exsactly my point they went after eli themselves not anything to do with the G-Man, the G-Man just warned them of “unforeseen consiquenses” and unlike HL1 were he syas that at the start he says it mid-end and that will be the consiquenses of eli’s dead (episode 3)
Reaper, if you’re going to continue on posting shit that is already obvious, then please make it more clear. Everything you say is something repeated, but jumbled in the grammar of a friggin monkey.
If there is a blue mug, say “it’s a blue mug.”
I do not think the G-Man wanted to kill Eli. It would be quite sadistic if he just uses his daughter to frighten him and then send Advisors to kill him. This does not make sense at all. The G-Man ultimately caused the downfall of the citadel by awakening Gordon. It was also a very likely consequence that Breen would die in the course of the events. But an Advisor told Breen to teleport to the Combine Overworld and even offered him a host body. The Combine also tried it’s best to kill Gordon.
Why would they work against the G-Man and then work together with him even if it is about killing Eli? Why should the G-Man want to kill Eli anyway? Eli is a Resistance’ key person and the G-Man supports the Resistance. “All the efforts in the world would have gone to waste” if he would not have sent Gordon to City 17.
Also the G-Man seems quite friendly in his heart-to-heart. Remember “I wish i could do more…”, “Now listen carefully my dear”… I guess the “unforseen consequences” he mentioned refer to the Borealis.
Also Eli called the G-Man a “mutual friend”. There is of cause the possibility that this was ironic (and after the attempted “arbitrary imposition” Gordon could have been a bit unpleased about the G-Man’s decisions). But if the G-Man realy was working against Eli, he might have used vocabularies like “the walking horror”, “the walking curse”, “the walking nightmare”…
I wonder if Gordon is the only living human now who is aware of the G-Man. The G-Man must have used sth. as leverage to prevent Eli from sharing his knowledge with Kleiner. I also wonder what the Vortigaunts are thinking about the G-Man. And if the Vortigaunts discussed this matter with Eli or Kleiner.