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Either buy CDs at concerts of each respective band (usually at reduces price, like $12), or buy them digitally. Generally they go for $7-10 for full albums.

The remastered version of the Wall on iTunes costs $17, $14 for the normal one.

I would prefer not to buy digital music though. I realize it’s cheaper but that’s one of the things I don’t like having purely digital if I’m spending money on it.

Buy it digitally, burn it onto a CD?

Too much work. And I like having the cover art and the CD art. I also typically rip my CDs are FLAC files just because I can and most digitally downloaded music are mp3s :stuck_out_tongue: . So yeah I just like to be difficult.

if you live near the uk, amazon.co.uk is the way to

discogs.com for second hand

Everyone PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop reading Jethrosoup’s posts and assuming I implied that gamers don’t read and readers don’t game. All I said is that the groups, on the whole, have different characteristics. Also, it sounds like you haven’t read my earlier posts. I explained that, generally, a legitimate copy of a book is far more appealing than a pirated copy while this is not at all the case with music movies and games. With these three, it is often MORE appealing to have a pirated copy than a legitimate copy (not even considering price). Because of this, the two situations are very different. Read my earlier posts for more explanation.

Hey Maxey!

I don’t get that…at all…sorry. :frowning:
How exactly is a pirated copy of a movie/mp3/game more appealing then the retail (besides price of course)?
Usually, a pirated copy is exactly the same as the retail, since the pirated copy is basically the retail copy, just online for free download. So, they should be equal. If fact, the pirated versions of movies and mp3s are sometimes worse off since they tend to be in a lower picture/sound quality.
In your claim that real books are more more appealing then PDFs, that is true, I’d rather have a real book in my hands rather then looking at my monitor, reading the text in Word, but isn’t a legitimate copy of ANYTHING always more appealing (as long as it’s valuable and at a good price) then some pirated version on Megaupload? I don’t get that, maybe there’s something beyond my understanding, but I don’t get it. Sorry :[

You didn’t read my earlier posts in which I provided a detailed explanation. My explanation was that, in the case of movies and music, pirated copies NEVER have DRM while legitimate copies often do, and in the case of games, you usually get the bonus content from things such as pre-ordering without ever actually having to pre-order. They’re not always better, they’re usually about equal. But if it’s lower quality, then you’re probably just not pirating the right copy. But regardless, in the case of electronic media, the incentives line up towards piracy. With books, besides the price, all incentives line up heavily towards buying a book. And there’s also the fact to consider that new games cost a hell of a lot more than most new books so price is an even bigger factor in games. And music costs less per song, but you’re going to want enough songs that to buy them would break your bank.

If you pirate a movie, you don’t get the annoying 5 minutes worth of trailers, piracy warnings, and annoyingly slow and spoilerific menu’s. Want to add subtitles? As long as the movie has them, you can just right click and enable the one you want.

In my experience, pirated movies are typically of lower quality. Most of the time it’s a 720p DVD rip which is kind of hard to watch, on a computer monitor at least. I’m not sure how it works on a TV. And you usually don’t get the extra content, though in some cases you do.

I’m haven’t been on long, so I took the time to read through all of your posts.
Not trying to sound mean, but where are you getting your information from?
I used to be a console gamer and I wasn’t illiterate, nor were any of my friends, in fact most if not all of my friends were very smart, we all knew how to easily hack into and modify(or flash) our consoles to play burned games, but we didn’t because there was no point, If we did we would have been console banned and possibly profile banned. Heck, look on Youtube, there are plenty of illiterate people on consoles that know how to hack or flash them. Most of the videos are made by little 9 or 11 yr olds.

Also, books, games, movies, and music are all in the same category of entertainment(Homestuck is a prime example of this). So your argument is invalid there.

Back to pirating, I have pirated games mainly because the game has no damn demo. If the devs expect me to put my hard earned $50 into their “awesome” game, then they should have the courtesy to give me a simple demo with one of the fun parts of the game. It doesn’t take much to make a demo.

When I do pirate, If it sucks I delete it and they receive no profits, and they weren’t going to get it anyway, so THERE IS NO LOSS. If it’s good then I buy a retail copy, and they EARN the money for their well developed product. I have my morals though, there are games from devs that I will buy and never have a single thought of pirating(Bungie, DICE, ect.).

Guess what, I never bought Halo 1, or 2. I BORROWED them from friends and Bungie became one of my favorite developers because of it, and I have bought Halo ever since, had I not borrowed them I would have never known about Halo, in fact I wouldn’t be a gamer at all.
Also, I didn’t buy Battlefield 2 at first, but after I went to a friends house and played it on their PC I immediately bought it and I have bought all the other Battlefields excluding 1942, 2142, and the original Bad Company. The only reason I haven’t bought those is because I don’t have the money.
So that also makes your other argument invalid, EVERY media was once physical.

EDIT: I along with any other game would find a Legit copy of a game 100x more appealing than a pirated version(if price wasn’t a factor), simply because the main reason people pirate is because they can’t afford it, or that they don’t want to waste their hard earned money on the game if it isn’t good.

And there are advantages to buying a game instead of pirating it. Buying from Steam at least allows you to always have to most recent version of a game without having to worry about upgrading and you can delete the game and redownload it whenever you want (though I suppose the same could be said for a pirated copy but it’s not the same). Plus the whole Steam overlay thing.

pirated books: fucking tiny 1mb files extremely fast downloads even on dial-up, I tend to fall asleep when I try to read an actual book, also digital books are much easier to carry.

pirated games: pirated games take 5-16 gigs these days and are quite hard to crack, forget about online multiplayer and say hello to a keygen that’s 50/50 a rootkit worm. I’m using my neighbor’s faster internet so that I don’t have to wait 2 weeks to download a game, they have a 60gb per month cap but I know they download shit so I have to limit it to 30/month). Most pirated games DO NOT work online, you could find a good release that works over hamacchi, if you want to get pwned by hackers that is.

pirated movies: always a random video format and resolution, blocking due to low bitrate, artifacts from re-encode, bad interlacing/deinterlacing, cam releases(very bad!)

Real music fucking takes too much room IRL, and easy as fuck to stack 850GB of it on an external HDD like some of my pirate friends. Most good songs are available in FLAC and you can find a flac/wav discography torrent of just about any artist.

Do you have any actual statistics or any sort of source to back this? My 75 y/o grandma got herself a kindle and the first thing she did was teach her how to pirate ebooks - and I’m talking about a woman who loves to read and has a huge collection of physical books. So I’m calling bullshit on your “facts”.

Where do you guys find your movies? All my downloaded movies are MKV :s , Bluray quality. No artifacts or other distortion.

On the matter of Ebooks, I would never choose to read a book on a screen rather then a physical copy.

You are in Sweden …remember? All bets are off? Freedom and shit? Fast dl’s?
The government hasn’t made it all the way yet to put it’s dirty fingers up your ass. I say YET. Enjoy it while you can.

Why do you guys keep paying attention to garth’s ignorant bullshit when you could just add that idiot to the ignore list and save yourselves some unnecessary hypertension.

Eh, either way it works.

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