Execution Vs. Life Imprisonment

I’m with King_Kaddo.

What do we get by torturing people? I think death penalty is overused, but, even if you are going to kill a guy, why make him suffer? What do we get back?

It was already said in this thread that US states with death penalty have higher crime rates. I don’t think the reason is that death penalties bring violence. Instead, the cause is that the people in those states are more vengeful and vengefulness brings both violence and death penalty. I think that means there would be much less violence if people were less vengeful.

we should tell people they are getting the life sentence
then whisk them away from their cells in the night and give them the death sentence

I am totally shocked by this thread. I had no idea so many people support the murder of citizens by the state. There is no moral standing for killing another human being EVER. Aside from that, there is a major problem with innocent people being sent to death row. A very good instance are the West Memphis Three, wrongly convicted of murder in 1994 by a bunch of backwoods no nothing redneck fucks. The evidence used against them? They look like satan worshipors and listen to Metallica, I kid you not. They are currently scheduled for death despite DNA testing showing that the blood found at the crime scene did not belong to any suspect or victim of the crime. The court has refused to consider this new evidence.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvON2sUfEaQ

How would you like to be one of these men? Awaiting death for a crime you did not commit? Would you support the death penalty still?

You could also ask these people, a list of the lucky few who have been able to get a court to exonerate them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exonerated_death_row_inmates

When you support the death penalty you support the murder of innocent men and women.

Fact: Death penalty is not flawless, therefore even innocent inmates are killed

Fact: To prevent innocents from being put on the chair, huge efforts must be made to make sure they are in fact guilty. This costs massive amounts of money. And still does not work properly. Even with all the resources it binds, the system still kills hundreds of innocent people with frightening regularity.

Fact: Death sentence does not have any positive effect on crime rates whatsoever. Never has had and most certainly never will.

Fact: The only benefit that death sentence has ever had was to satisfy the primitive instinct of vengeance by those wronged by the suspect. It is cruelty met with cruelty. An eye for an eye. A system that has never worked and never will.

Fact: Life long imprisonment is overall cheaper.

Fact: Both systems only treat the symptoms, but don’t fight the problem at the root. Only from a massively flawed society capital crimes and murdering, ravishing madmen can spring forth.

Question: How can you teach your children that it is wrong to hurt and kill, if the government of your country, whose laws you have to teach them to obey, does it and is considered to be right to do so?

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I couldn’t have said it better, Danson :slight_smile:

If we look at dansen and diabeetus post we can clearly say: There is no justice. So a discussion about executions has no effect. That’s why I said that a pedophile and a pirateguy can get 4 years both. You cannot solve this problem by killing the pedophile and let the pirate sit 4 years. We need justice that does not exists for the warefell of economy or any other materialistic shit. It has to be for the society.

You are pushing a little to hard, aren’t you?

Exaggerated conclusion from exaggerated hypothesis.

Thinking about it again, I think 4 years for pedophilia is reserved for the least severe cases, not rape. For instance, the guy might have just intentionally grabbed a kid in an improper way. I’m no expert in law, someone might explain this better.

may i remind you people of the bible?

In the bible it clearly states ([COLOR=‘Red’]Tho Shall NOT[/SIZE] Kill) it doesnt have any if, ands or buts, its CLEARLY says YOU WILL NOT KILL ANYONE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!! EVER!!! :fffuuu::fffuuu::fffuuu:

because everyone is christian? go away troll

Some will assert that it says “Thou Shalt Not Murder” and we don’t base our laws and society around the Bible. If it were, then adultery would be a capital offense.

It’s also one of the basic tenants not to for any democratic government.

For truth about the Bible please look into the Atheist thread.

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