Don’t patronize me you fuck. Adaptation is a gradual change that gives a species a survival advantage. The premise of evolution, if I understand it correctly, is that adaptation will eventually lead to such drastic changes that two individuals adapted differently can no longer breed, therefore a new species is created. My point isn’t that this can’t happen, it’s that divergent skin color is not an example of evolution - it’s an example of adaptation. Adaptation can lead to evolution, or not. In the case of skin color it’s extremely unlikely that any changes could be so drastic as to prevent interbreeding between races.
Glad you are well Mattemuse. Obviously, you are feeling friendly and at peace with the world. You must have lots of good friends who care about you, given your amazing social ability. I think it fair to say that your behaviour is a factor in your evolution/transormation from human to jerk.
Awwwww Poor Mattemuse… having a bad day precious? Why don’t you tell eveyone here how horible your life is? It is clearly affecting your ability to debate and process information.
I have to laugh… you say “if i understand it correctly” - You call me a fuck and mistake my greeting as patronizing, when I was being most sincere - It would seem you misunderstand a lot in life Mattemuse.
BTW, being an asshole does not make you powerful… it merely makes you an asshole.
No.
The creation of new species is a byproduct of evolution.
Edit: As is adaption.
right, all im saying is try to read/understand/comprehend what the person you’re responding to is talking about, before saying “the topic is hard to understand.”
Sorry buddy, the difference between evolution and adaption is hard to understand, i hope I’ve assisted you in realizing what it is. And the difference between couching your assholery in transparently patronizing courtesies and just saying “fuck you” up front is, well, zero. Plus or minus honesty, whatever that’s worth to you.
Hahaha
I get it… you thought I was saying it was hard for YOU to understand… touchy touchy. Just a general statement is all. No no… the topic is hard to understand. Even in high level accademic circles. Methodological naturalism - Neodarwinismo all various methods to explain it. Life is not about you Mattemuse. ONe day you might learn this if you get past being so defencive.
So how about it Mattemuse… Care to share with the group? (Now I am being patronising given your inablitliy to understand the difference)
EDIT* Actually don’t bother, Have stuff to do. I am too busy to ignore you right now… Sorry
yep, weren’t we just talking about honesty? the first step is being honest with yourself, I guess. and then you can work on being honest with other people. i know it doesn’t seem like a big deal, but you’ll find you develop far better interpersonal relationships when you learn to be honest and say how you really feel.
“The LORD detests lying lips, but he delights in men who are truthful.”
I said what I said.
I am not in the habbit of BS-ing people. If you feel you know my thought better than me, than excellent. That is a wonderful gift you have there. Enjoy it. (Snigger snort grin)
It still does not change that being an asshole does not make you powerful, it merely makes you an asshole. as I said before, life is not all about you… There are a few other people on the planet as well. Did you honestly think that I did not mean my greeting? Did you think that was patronizing?
EDIT*** and so you throw in a scripture verse.
“The lips of the righteous bring healing, but the mouth of the wickid stirs up strife”
Hahahahaha - Ok folks step right up… it is time to play bash someone else with scripture passages… Hahahahhaha
I’m guessing this thread is still 90% people not understanding what ‘theory’ means (I’m looking at you yaro you dumbass.)
I went back to read but could not bring myself to read farther than
Yaro your ignorance and unwillingness to learn is a fucking disgrace to humanity and while I’m not a believer in eugenics, you should be stripped of any human rights that require intelligence. I don’t want you breeding or voting, the LAST thing we need is more of people like you.
Ooh I wanna quote too!
“If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.”
“If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.”
Nice Fancy Pants.
Somehow this seems apt given the general topic…
"Proverbs 1:22 (New International Version)
22 "How long will you simple ones love your simple ways?
How long will mockers delight in mockery
and fools hate knowledge?
“This god whom I created was man-made and madness, like all gods! Man he was, and only a poor specimen of man and ego: out of my own ashes and fire this ghost came to me, and, verily, it did not come to me from beyond.”
“It was the sick and decaying who despised the body and earth and invented the heavenly realm and the redemptive drops of blood: but they took even these sweet and gloomy poisons from body and earth. They wanted to escape their own misery, and the stars were too far for them.”
Oh wait those aren’t from the bible. Oh wait yes they are.
Isn’t that supposed to be in the Ask a Christian thread?
Yup yup yup.
My bad.
Seemed like the thing to do at the time.
C’mon, folks! Where are all the claims that supposedly discount evolution such as the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics or Piltdown Man?
Sons, I am disappoint.
Well, I would try and take the other side for fun, but really… It is too painful.
The one that is always interesting is the whole “Well… there is no added information that can be introduced into the code that is viable”… But that is an old debate as well. When you ask someone taking that position to define “infomation” that is when the whole thing generally falls apart right before their eyes.
Shrugs.
They also can’t seem to define the term “kind” which they, evidently, lifted directly from the Bible.
I once got into an argument with a creationist and he finally defined what “kind” meant. He said, “Rats can only come from rats.” I thanked him, then asked him to define “rat”. I asked him if a “kangaroo rat” was a “rat” and he wouldn’t answer. I asked him if a “mole rat” was a “rat”, he wouldn’t answer. I asked him if a “maned rat” was a “rat” and he wouldn’t tell me.
The conversation kind of petered out at that point. I was disappointed because it was going so well up to that point.
LOL
I laughed when I read this Danielsangeo, because that was rather brilliant.
Yes, as you say, define kind - The evidence is amazingly clear, but as you know, when a person wants to see things a certain way, they simply do. I know I have been caught with that a few times - I try to avoid it now that I know better, yet we all have our biases.
I find the whole genetic thing confusing to some degree, but captivating just the same. The liger apperently gets so big, because the gene that stops growth is switch off (I think it is - not sure) and so, these things tend to get rather large… Just makes you wonder if kitty ever decided to munch his/her handler…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=191cPadaxCk
Nature is an amazing thing
(a few pics)
https://english.cari.com.my/viewthread.php?action=printable&tid=4231
I wonder if YARO thinks that humanity was dispersed randomly upon different parts of the globe as “races”
Does anyone happen to remember the name of the fellow who did the research on random mutations mentioned in “The Greatest Show on Earth” by Dawkins?
The experiment concerned baterium that were bred in a sucrose rich enviroment, that after 33,000 generations, a random A mutation (as it was called in the book) worked in conjunction with random mutation B (55,000 generations later) so that they could also use some other potential food source that was in the dish?
(The interesting thing was, that the bacterium could not use the other stuff, until BOTH random mutations had happened. - and the other test groups - 11 if I recall) showed NO random mutations at all)
I will be coming to it in a while, as I am going over the audio book again, but wanted to see if I could find it online…
Thanks
Richard Lenski
THANK YOU!!!
Most excellent.
See what you have to look forward to when you get old? (Forgetting I mean)
Cheers.
A link to his site.
https://myxo.css.msu.edu/index.html
Evolution, fact and theory
https://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/lenski.html
Great info for those interested.