Apart from “the universe exists”, it’s all just assumption based on assumption.
Why can’t “I don’t know” be a sufficient answer? Why does a deity have to be inserted “in the gaps”? Why do you “need something else”?
Well, if “I don’t know” always would be a sufficient answer we would still live in Middle-ages, wouldn’t we? 
(and, oh irony, we all would believe in God). Someone could argue that God’s existence is something that cannot be proven/dis-proven, but IMO when you study all the evidence you CAN come to a conclusion that God doesn’t exist (Occam’s razor would be crucial here).
So much rage on this thread against Christianity. :fffuuu:
No, a question to all those hardcore athiests who are raging away.
How do you explain consciousness then? According to science the world is made up of bits of matter (bscly, its more complicated than that, but that doesn’t really matter in the context). The only theory of consciousness that I’ve heard that makes sense is the idea that it is actually an illusion, and that we are not really conscious at all.
However, the problem there is that the consciousness is just much a fact, from my perspective at least, as the universes existence. More so even. I am me, the whole universe might be in my imagination, or a grand illusion, but my consciousness is as much fact as anything ever could be.
With the possible exception of mathemathics, but meh. :rolleyes:
Also, please stop repeating how “OMG EVOLUTION IS TRUE AND I HEARD A CRISTIAN SAY IT NOT THEREFOR ALL CRISTANS R DUMB”. Which is effectively what you’ve been doing. Trolling christians is just makes you look bad, and gives science a bad name.
To those who keep saying how rigid Christianity is. While I realise I might be a minority with this approach, I personally allow my beliefs to change in accordance to both science and religion. I believe in God, however I also believe in Evolution, because the Bible is so full of metaphors and such that you would have to be a bit dense to take it 100% to heart. No offense meant to those that do so.
While I don’t believe in the Big Bang, this is more due to the fact that it is a much too simplistic approach to the Universe in my eyes, rather than any idea that the Bible says it’s not true. I doubt they’re gonna find the Higg’s Boson at CERN, but maybe I’ll be proven wrong. ^^
Please tell me I’m not the only person here who believes in both Christianity and science? Is lonesome in here. 
quantum physics etc
lol no it’s not
that’s a pretty bad ‘theory’
pretty sure almost no one has said anything like that in this thread
you obviously have no clue what the big bang theory actually entails
tl;dr:
people picking and choosing what scientific theories to accept based on a lack of understanding
If you don’t think the big bang happens, you can hardly say you “believe” in science. There’s a hell of a lot of evidence for it.
Also, belief is entirely the wrong term for science.
Can you explain what you mean about consciousness? I don’t see what matter has to do with it not being explainable. It’s all to do with the brain.
simplistic? I don’t think it is what you think it is
maybe if science would stop changing its mind all the time, I might pause to put a bit more ‘faith’ in what I am told. 
If it didn’t change it’s ideas, then it wouldn’t be science. The whole point is that we constantly refine and re-evaluate existing ideas, to try and get as close as possible to the truth.
And THAT is why I do enjoy a good scientific discovery. It is fascinating to compare what we thought 50 years ago with what we know today.
and there goes all your credibility!
I think the problem is that you’re looking at it in terms of religion. The thing is, science is always trustworthy because theories are always based on demonstrable results. If you want to know why a theory is the way it is, you can test it for yourself.
I was TRYING to be agreeable soup.
I know! I wasn’t criticising, I was attempting to helpfully nudge your views on science.
oh. I have no views whatsoever. I am Switzerland or some other neutral country. 
Well, I do believe Jesus Christ was a person that was just too smart, and I have a lot to learn from him. I think creating a religion on top of what he said was a very unfortunate mistake, though. His ideas and thoughts were completely distorted.
For instance, he used to accept everyone for who one was. He did not demand anyone to became Jewish or leave one’s life of sin, and that is why people loved him so much and was amazed at was he said. People around him saw the good person that he was and that made them want to be like him. He taught love and tolerance. The only thing Jesus did not seem to tolerate at all was hypocrisy. I believe he was very similar to Gandhi, watch the movie “Gandhi” if you have the opportunity.
Nowadays, Christianity is so intolerant to people’s differences, it is so many times the subject of verbal fights and causes so many divisions in society that it makes me wonder why they call it Christianity.
Not only that, Christianity has enormous lists of rules you have to follow, things that you can and can’t do, despite Jesus repeating time after time: “I want mercy, not sacrifice”.
Despite the brilliant parable where he describes the end of times, where he tells to one side “You guys did not feed me when I was hungry, did not give me clothes when I was cold, etc” and tells the opposite to the other side. That it, religion is unneeded.
Despite that somewhere he said many would ask him in the end of days something along the lines “But, Lord, I went to the church every Sunday, I prayed for you every day, I read the Bible so many times, I had so much faith” and that he would answer “Sorry, pal, I don’t know who the Hell you are.” That is, religion is prejudicial because it makes you think you are better than you really are.
Pray at home, don’t judge and you won’t be judged, love your enemy…
The whole point was completely missed. That is the reason Gandhi did not become a Christian. Gandhi was a true Christian, yet he did not belong to Christianity.
I don’t believe in Heaven and Hell, and I don’t think Jesus was God. What he said is worth gold, though, if you use your reason to understand it instead of doing things just because someone told you to do so.
I’m not trying to make you leave Christianity or anything. Just think.
If science didn’t change then we’d still be living in caves fighting eachother with sticks and stones.
You mean you don’t do that?
my computer is just a giant rock i dont know how im even here
Miracles.