Evolution vs Creation

As you can see from what you posted, an hypothesis only becomes theory when it’s accepted, and it doesn’t get accepted if there’s no evidence.

It’s not blindly if there’s evidence.

Accepted <> proved.

wat

Science doesn’t intend to “prove” anything.

Are we going to have to explain evidence to you as well?

All I wanted was to show you that evolution isn’t a fact and you COULD be wrong (not ARE, COULD). Instead I was attacked and insulted (followed by posts claiming that I’m wrong and you’re surely right).

Except that evolution IS just as much fact as gravity is.

Yeah, right, and the lack of evidence of it’s existance is totally normal because it could have been washed away etc. so we shouldn’t bother with that and whatever I’ve said was either a coincidance or just plain “not true” even though it’s just as probable as your theory (regarding the “evidence”, not the egsistence of a higher being that you by all means do not accept).

Someone said something about ignorance?

The truth is that you COULD be wrong but you don’t accept it…

PS. I can already see someone posting stuff like “Blble was changed bla bla bla over the years”. Well, look up how many copies were there and how they confirm themselves. Many books you read in school are less certain to be acurate to what they were in original…

Sorry, but we have literal truckloads of evidence.

Yep. They were talking about you, though.

I accept that I could be wrong about the theory of evolution, though. Just as I could be wrong about gravitational theory. Both still exist, however, regardless of what our theories about them say. But, in order to show that the theory of evolution is wrong, you’re going to have to have some pretty compelling evidence. “Nuh-uh!” is hardly compelling.

The chances of the theory of evolution being wrong as a whole is so slim that there’s no point in considering it.

None of us here is believing blindly in the theory of evolution. What we do, however, is accept it as the best explanation for the phenomenon of evolution that is currently available to us. This is only due to the massive evidence that there is for the phenomenon of evolution actually functioning as described in the theory of evolution, while all so-called counterevidence so far has not survived any scientific investigation.
We have yet to encounter pieces of solid evidence that completely contradict the theory of evolution. Until then, we will accept it as factual.

What you do, however, is ignore any counterevidence to your personal religious believes, even the official opinion of the Pope himself on the subject of evolution, and found your belief on a highly contradictory religious text that was written by people who didn’t know anything about the world, thus having to make up stories to explain everything, which, evidently, ranged from highly erratic to downright lies, as far as quality is concerned.

You also believe in a god that is by definition (taking into regard certain texts in the Bible) either not omnipotent (therefore not worth worshipping), not benevolent towards humans (certainly not!), or just a poor liar who always contradicts himself.

To this day, it is well known that the Bible (the foundation of any Christian faith) is a bunch of morality tales, parables, analogies and actual historic references. Only noone knows what of it is symbolic, what of it is factual truth and what of it is just plain bullshit. So either you accept the whole of the Bible as truth (then you believe in a mass-murdering, lying, evil god who has no problem killing innocents and encourages rape and slaughter), or only parts of it (begs the question: why believe at all?) or nothing of it (which would be consequential).

Not to believe in the Bible (or any other monotheistic religious foundation book) is not to believe in God (Allah, Jahwe, whatever).

To follow the scientific methods is never to blindly believe in something, but always to challenge your own and others’ perception of the world and find out whether it holds up to this challenge or not.

Your view of the world does not hold up to challenge, because there is no evidence of a supreme being caring for the fate of this little blue planet, and so far you have no way of presenting some convincing proof to any independent line of investigators.

Our view of the world, as it is based on sciencific theories, has already been tested and challenged and proven to hold up to those challenges many times before even being announced to the public or at least accepted by the wide majority of scientists around the world.

Basically, what you are doing is telling us there is a pink unicorn in your closet. As believers, we would congratulate you to have found out about the pink unicorn and spread the good word around our neighborhoods: “YARO has found the pink unicorn! All praise the unicorn!”

As scientists, we would open your closet, look inside and see no pink unicorn there, assuming that you either lied, hallucinated or were deluded in any way. If we tell you that we have looked and found no unicorn, and you still tell us that there IS a unicorn, we get slightly irritated. If we then show you your empty closet and you just shut your eyes and shake your head, yelling: “I KNOW THERE IS A UNICORN! You are just trying to trick me!”, you can imagine we get a little bit pissed.
If you start making fun of us for not seeing a pink unicorn, where there “clearly has to be one”, we might even get mad.

That’s what has happened here. Insert “God” for “Pink Unicorn” and “Heaven” for “Closet”. Because God is just that. An imaginary friend for adults and children alike. Until we find proof that he exists. But we are confident that we won’t. That’s maybe a bit bold from us, but that’s how we roll.

Truckloads… “This looks like a human, let’s check it out. Maaan, it has x genoms similar to ours, we must be related. Look at that thing, it’s similar to the other thing, and the other other thing is similar to the other other other thing”… (sarcasm)

And all of this is chance. We’re the only species on the planet that’s able to speak, feel, think and it’s all a coincidance. Too bad no other animal evolved like that, then you’d prove me wrong…

Show me a reasonable source saying that gravity is just “a theory”.

EDIT: And it started, multiple fellas bombing me with some mumbo jumbo. I’m out of here…

You COULD be wrong :].

Oh god, you just don’t get it, do you? :facepalm:

There’s also the chance that the sun will burn out before tomorrow because of some as-of-yet unknown space anomaly, but it’s not going to happen, just like the theory of evolution isn’t wrong.

Edit: yeah that was a weird comparison but whatever lol

Yes. Truckloads. If you don’t understand it, however…

Um. Other animals do speak, feel, and think?

Well, if you can discount what countless scientists say about evolutionary theory, I don’t rightly know what you’d consider a “reasonable source”.

You will still have to have pretty compelling evidence that it’s wrong, though.

…because it contains whole data showing humans full transformation, right? Nooo, there are just peaces of information that scientists put together and formed a theory. That’s all, no hard evidence of humans evolution from single celled organisms…

Right.

False.

What would you consider “hard evidence” of humans evolving from single celled organisms?

Would Britannica.com do? Wikipedia doesn’t seem to be your style.

As long as you consider to actually read it, you can call it whatever you want.

So could you. Do you accept that? Then you are not a believer. If you are not a believer, why bother? If you don’t accept it - what gives you the right to call us closeminded?

We accept that we could be wrong. The likelihood of religion being wrong is just infinitely larger.

Chillren: I think he wants the entire lineage from eukaryote to modern human with all the generations from parent to child and if there’s a single break in between, he’ll say, “A-ha! You lose!”

:facepalm:

Sure, yesterday I’ve seen two beevers, one of them saying “hey, let’s go grab a beer and chill next to that tree. I like sitting there because it reminds me of my childhood”

No, I’m just not comfortable with arguing (alone) with a bunch of guys saying different things and requiring an answer when I often need to look up some words…

Says you?

What a reasonable demand.

So, unless you behold animals speaking English and behaving exactly like Western civilized humans you will not consider any noises they make or any interactions between them a “language”?

So people who don’t drink beer and don’t speak English aren’t people?

Much to learn you still have…

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