Eucharistic Shenaninigans

The Big Bang is a theory made by a CATHOLIC Priest who was also a university professor, therefore scientists without knowing it are teaching Catholic Truth in science. Once again, Science cannot contradict the Catholic Faith and vice versa.

Oh and Acristoff, no, just no. You’re angry at your perception of the Catholic Church, not the actual Church. If you would read the Catechism you would see that everything you mentioned in your previous post is not justifiable in any circumstance, you can see it here:
Catechism Section 2 The 10 Commandments Chapter 2 Article 5

Science can contradict religion.

It just doesn’t have to.

Actually, the BBT is not the work of a single person. Lemaître might have coined the idea (though he didn’t coin the term; that was Hoyle), but he didn’t propose the theory in a vacuum. He used the works of previous scientists who were also doing this work.

If it wasn’t for Lemaître, someone else would have come around with the theory because that is what we observe.

The religious background of the scientist is irrelevant…and CERTAINLY not “Catholic Truth”.

Just because a Catholic person though of the theory doesn’t mean it’s a Catholic idea. HOWEVER, either way, since I’m a rational and logical person, I wouldn’t care whether it’s a Catholic theory or any other kind of theory: it looks like it works, therefore it’s the one I’m going with.

I’m glad there’s at least one element of science that you actually believe.

I wasn’t talking about Catholicism specifically, I’m talking about anytime where a religious leader used his power over people to get them to do bad things without question. When a person can justify murder with religion I’m definitely not going to be okay with it.

More importantly, we wouldn’t have threads like this one.

Is the big bang theory universal? yes. the word Catholic comes from greek, it means universal. Therefore the big bang theory is Catholic.

That’s like saying Beijing is China.

not really.
Northern Capital does not mean Middle Country.

Way to miss the point.

Anyways, no one knows if the big bang theory is “truth” but we do know it’s a pretty credible one which is backed by a large amount of data and evidence to support the theory.

Just because a church is given a name doesn’t mean that it is the definition of the word origin. That’s like saying because my name is Max, I’m the greatest (derived from the latin maximillion meaning greatest ).

Also, Acristoff was referencing the part where deriving something out of a whole, doesn’t mean that the part is the whole.

And, since elephants are mammals and I have a mammal as a pet, I have an elephant as a pet. :rolleyes:

So then evolution is Catholic?

Makes sense to me.

Well as the Catholic Church teaches, there can’t be contradiction between faith and Science so if evolution happened, then it is universal and like Pius XII, Paul VI and John Paul 2 said, it is compatible with Christianity and if it is compatible with Christianity it is universal.

So you must agree that Gerson’s cure for cancer is wrong because it’s not supported by science or Catholicism?

The research is available for you all the time in Japan and Mexico, therefore it is supported by Science and the Church. Listen to yourself, you think that pumping your body with hazardous chemicals (Chemo) and burning your cells (radiation) is the “cure” for Cancer when it’s clearly in healthy nutrition. I know many people who were cured of Cancer because of nutrition. All the people I know who listened to their doctor who said “just do chemo and radiation” they’re are all dead. It’s better to boost the immune system than to destroy it to get rid of waste. But this is off topic, I’ll make a Gerson topic tomorrow.

So Catholicism can’t be contradicted because Catholics said so?
Additionally science is compatible with Christianity because Christians say so?
…and this leads to Christianity being universal?
It’s difficult to debate cyclical logic like that…because it’s cyclical.
Also it makes for a very poor argument.

Gerson’s treatments have been shown to be harmful at best. Just because it’s being “researched” doesn’t mean anything. If you’d said clinical trials were being conducted in Japan and Mexico, that’d be a whole different thing. But “research” leaves me with nothing. Also, I went on your Catholic forum and even there people were telling you anecdotal evidence (you apparently knowing someone who was cured is anecdotal evidence) is worth dirt. They also told you about your stupid immune system theory: cancers are your own cells (it’s so easy to prove they aren’t ‘waste’ as you put it), your immune system doesn’t attack it.

Chemo is meant to be harmful: it’s how the cancer cells are killed off. The “cure” is obviously not in healthy nutrition since lots of healthy people get cancer: by your logic it would be impossible for them to get it.

EDIT: Also, that guy you were talking about in the Catholic forum, the one who made the juicer, he didn’t live to be 117.

That’s so hilarious, I literally laughed myself numb upon reading this.

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