Empire State Building lights up for China.. WTF

Playing the refs pisses me off - yes, corporate-owned media is corrupt in many different senses, but they aren’t the root cause of ANY of the problems you’ve mentioned. You can take the Media’s eager willingness to regurgitate the propaganda fed to them by Junior Bush’s administration (or any administration) as evidence that everything wrong in the world is the fault of the Media (or better yet “The Liberal Media”), or, if you’re a rational thinking human being you can recognize the real issue here is that 51% of the US voting population will believe anything they see on TV, bought Junior’s neocon bullshit - twice - and yes, that does reflect poorly on our “intelligence” as a nation.[i]

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me - you can’t get fooled again!”[/i]

While it is true that world peace is a stupid notion that is clung to only by the desperate who want to see an absolute good in the world, we can clearly coexist together as a species. Every single person together? No. In large societies? Yes. As for the environment, we are fine. Our planets climate will change from time to time. Humans are advanced enough to survive and continue existing. So, ultimately, such a pessimistic view of humanity forgets our history. If we could truly not coexist with each other, we would not be where we are today.

No we’re not. We are smart enough to know how to do things that can hurt us but not smart enough to know how to keep those things from hurting ourselves. No matter what happens, as long as people keep having more and more children population, pollution, starvation and ever other single horrid thing we can think of will continue to rise.

I think that for the most part, you’re absolutely right.

See, now you’re taking what I’m saying and blowing it to epic proportions. We’re not talking about scientific number and law-bound facts like whether the sky is blue or if two plus two equals four. We’re discussing relations between different countries, which is felt differently between different people. If you want to rattle off something that doesn’t have basis to this topic, I’m not gonna bother respoding to it again. That being said, if you did say, in your opinion, the sky was red, not blue, I’d say your opinion is correct. Your facts are wrong.

As far as Pakistan goes, until the Pakistani government actually starts helping to find Bin Laden, and proves they are not, in fact, harboring him, the government is an enemy. I admittedly don’t know much of the people or the media enough to judge them.

Iran’s governmnet is headed by loonies. I’m sure it’s fair to say who’s our enemy. Same with North Korea.

Afghanistan is different because its people believe Bin Laden to be a saint. I don’t know if this has changed in recent years, but if they still do, chances are the government will sway in their opinion. The people are, therefore, “enemies”. Not enough to go to war over, but they are still not to be befriended.

And then Someonerandom pooped into the thread…And all was right again. :slight_smile:

 How are we going to stop pollution then? How are we going to become completely unreliable on unrenewable resources? How are we going to deal with the thousands upon thousands of people starving to death? How are we going to stop inflation and fix our economy? How are we going to stop all the tons and tons of trash we are dumping into our planet? 

The answer, we can’t, and we won’t. We don’t have the technology and it isn’t very practical to rely completely of green energy resources, not only is it not practical or possible to stop pollution, but also those polluting (big factories) have all the power and do not wish to change their ways. We can’t deal with starvation because the earth can only support so many people, amazing technology or not, and we are way way over that number, and still going up at an exponential rate. Once again, it isn’t practical or possible to stop producing waste, and all the waste we produce is going to be there for millions and millions of years. We may temporarily fix the economy and everything may seem fine, but really it would just be a slight upward bump on a massive downhill slope.

Humanity has long since reached it’s climax and is now on its slow agonizing decline. But don’t worry, the shit is only just starting to hit the fan, it’s your children that are gonna be fucked the most, and then their children after them even more so.

The best possible practical thing you can do for the world is not to have any children. Less people=less famine, war, poverty, pollution, waste, deforestation, and on and on and on. The best possible solution to all the world’s problems; wear a condem.

I find it interesting that there are still people that scream “The end is near!” The view is getting kinda old.

Rather that attempting to make fun of my views why don’t you attempt to pose a good counter argument?

Sorry, I would, but right now I’m as tired as fuck. I’ll respond tomorrow.

The history of humanity is a tale of overcoming and adapting to obstacles. That is how we now populate almost the entire world. While the future will undoubtedly bring new and difficult challenges, humanity can meet those challenges, as it always has.

This is what I dislike about America, the way they assume their way of things must be better. Sure, the Soviets where essentially occupying the country, but who says America isn’t doing the same? The people of the Middle East don’t want democracy or communism, they want foreign powers to stop fucking with them. This is one of the reasons isolationalist policies are so popular there.

That’s a relative viewpoint. If I was in North Korea I’d feel quite threatened by the rest of the world, especially by all those US missile bases in the South China Sea.

I also find it amusing how Iran is often criticised due to rumours of them building a nuclear weapon, when the US, France, China and Russia have thousands of them.

At least we don’t want to blow an other country…

to solve the overpopulation:all really stupid people(with that i mean the people that make the most retarded decisions ever,like going believing in the government who’s attacking a country to get a terrorist who’s hiding in another country)should die. let’s see:that’s about 87,9% of all humans. That would most certainly clean stuff up.

Hey, read the quote marks, jackass. I really don’t agree with the pushing of American life on others. “Evil” implies a sarcastic meaning. Evil implies a serious tone.

I really don’t care about Communism. I don’t know why it’s hated so in the US. That’s what I hated about the War in Iraq: I feel Bush was using it as an excuse to push democracy and the American way on the Middle East, when they were obviously doing fine otherwise. Hell, even the media jumped on board and were there filming the entire country going to hell and stated “It’s not good yet because it’s not a democracy.” No, you twit, it’s not good anymore because we upset the apple cart. Hell, Saddam Hussein was the reason Al Qaeda wasn’t in Iraq to begin with.

But at least Obama is sane.

Besides, the people of North Korea aren’t at all happy, as much as the media tells them to be. Ask my South Korean roommate, whose family was split apart by the cease-fire zone known as the 45th Parallel.
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Iran and North Korea both have targets picked out: Israel for Iran and Japan for North Korea. Tell me who the US, France, China, or Russia want to realisticaly blow away with a nuclear strike.

Its hated for two reasons:

  1. It is hated by idiots who only listen to various media outlets and let them make their opinions for them.

  2. It is hated because it always leads to corrupt and oppressive society, and thus any use of it is against the values of America.

Yeah, but merely stating you’re communist is a taboo.

We’ll see. Just because he is against war is no reason to believe he isn’t a nut.
Besides we can’t judge anything from the amount of time he spent so far in the whitehouse. plus I don’t like it that he wants to forbid guns. It leaves us completely harmless incase the US government takes over completely and becomes a dictatorship.

You sir, are a retard.

reason,if I may ask.

Thank God for your random bouts of sensibility.

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