Of course they won’t rewrite an entirely new engine from the ground up. No doubt it will be built onto the Source Engine just as Source was built on from the Gold-Source Engine just as the Gold-Source Engine was built on from the Quake Engine.
I’ve yet to see any proof other than forum posts of people who think it would happen for a reason that couldn’t simply be summed as “because I want this”
Changing the name will affect this how?
“because I want this”
“because I want this”
Honestly, how is code from a playable leak less valid than a random forum post from someone claiming to know one of the ex-devs at valve?
This is the best you’ve got?..
… Again, go back, and read the entire article before you start making yourself look like a complete idiot. I’ve also already explained this.
It’s not a matter of me wanting it you twit. The fact that you’re trying to pick apart what I say without any substantial back up of your own claims tells me you know your argument is probably flawed but you just don’t want to let it go. Similar to that of a small child.
Not to mention your comebacks are quite trivial and really don’t do a lot for your argument. Stop quoting me, go away, do some actual research and put together something more solid then “Because I want this”.
Not really, no. I’m quite worn out from making this same argument for the hundredth time.
How is my argument flawed? A guy posted a rumor he could have easily pulled out of his ass on a forum & got banned vs an actual leak that references files. It’s a pretty solid argument.
For the 3rd or 4th time go back, and read the article. It will tell you that the guy he mentions, his resume’, his time employed at Valve, and when he left is all Legit. Your argument is flawed because it proves nothing. It’s a leak that references files to ep3 - This means nothing except at some point ep 3 was in development. You can’t say that it still is, and I can’t say that it’s not. Stop speculating on what ‘you’ want, and look at the evidence. Do some research yourself before trying to make out like I don’t know what I’m talking about.
This is what Valve had to say on the DOTA 2 leak, and what I am basing my assumptions on:
“Anything people get out of that rumour, they shouldn’t take it as meaning anything,” Chet Faliszek told us at a London presentation of Counter Strike: Global Offensive. “I mean, I guarantee that if you went into the original Half Life source code now, you’d probably find mention of unrelated stuff labelled ‘HL3’ there already. Its just the way it happens.”
Source: https://www.nowgamer.com/news/1065119/halflife_2_episode_3_code_doesnt_mean_anything_valve.html
“I guarantee that if you went into the original Half Life source code now, you’d probably find mention of unrelated stuff labelled ‘HL3’” < There you go. It means nothing.
All that is left is to speculate. And when you look at the fact that Episode 1 and Episode 2 were only a year apart… And it’s been more then 4 years since the release of episode 2, I would say there is a good chance Valve have left episode 3 behind and moved on.
How does it prove anything is legit other than that Mike Dussault exists & that he left valve. I could have told you that a while ago.
I’ll look at some evidence when I actually see some.
Yeah, it means nothing at all. From looking at the Half Life source code now, I can tell you that there is no use of “HL3” or anything similar in the code. There is however a .hl3 file in my game folder, which is merely a numbered save file. Funny how he said you wouldn’t find HL3, yet the rumor he was addressing was about lines of code referencing EP3, isn’t it?
Yes because we all know that Duke Nukem Forever was 120 hours long because it took over a decade to develop. :rolleyes:
I believe you just completely contradicted yourself here. You just agreed with me you idiot. Obviously he didn’t pull it from his ass, and the guy he claims he attained the resume’ from not only existed but is also an ex-Valve employee. You say you could have told me a while ago, well why didn’t you post the source in the first place if you knew very well where I pulled it from. You’re trying to look like a smarty pants but frankly, I think you are just full of shit.
“because I want ep3”
Where does he say you wouldn’t find HL3? I think the point he was making was that ep3, hl3 or whatever other name they decide to use for their cpp files is just that, a label.
Are you tripping? What does that have to do with anything?
God, I haven’t been posting for a while. I returned just to say SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY to you. You are the one who is trying to look smart but you fail miserably.
HL2 was intended to be a sequel to HL1. They sorta left us about to get on a helicopter to the arctic in the end of Ep2, fully intending for the story to pick up a few hours later when the helicopter landed. If they don’t bring out a third episode, and instead bring out Half-Life 3, you can be damn sure they will have that same situation in the beginning, otherwise fans will go crazy and disown Valve.
And the difference between HL1 plus it’s expansions and HL2 plus the episodes, Gearbox made the HL1 expansions, and they have been selectively canonized, but mostly not canon, where the episodes were made by Valve and are completely canon.
… Well now. That’s a bit uncalled for big nuts. What’s your problem Mastershot? When you blow in from no where and all you have to say is that… I don’t particularly need to try and look smart.
I have every right to defend what I have to say thank you very kindly sir. Dias, said I had nothing to back up my accusations. I wasn’t going to take that bollix so I presented him with my argument, an argument that was legit, an argument that was on topic and made sense.
What’s wrong with me having a say Mastershot? Are you some arrogant prick who has a cry when someone has an opinion different to his own or just another 15 year old ego driven retard who couldn’t think of anything more intelligent to add to the conversation other then 'oh hi guys, i haven’t been here in a while. shut the fuck up. and you fail. :rabies: ’ ?
Good point. Valve are smart though, if they do bring out HL3 before ep3, either they will do it the way you’re assuming, or open up another story arc and make it somehow blend in with the end of episode 2. They seemed to do it pretty well with HL and HL2. I certainly didn’t expect to go from Black Mesa to waking up in a city 17.
True about the HL1 expansions and the HL2 episodes.
the files are there for a reason. It is very much a hint. Valve is not (that) sloppy. look at the P2 arg. they thought it would take months not days. D3ALW1TH1T or CRYM0ARFAHGGUT
I’m just excited it will have some new weapons, I got bored using the same ones over and over. I also like the idea of the putting the Tau Cannon back in but not so much the Gluon Gun. I never really used it because of how fast it sucked up ammo.
Haha oh wow! I was starting to doubt myself until you posted acting all high and mighty. Everyone likes you Xenophene 
Note for dumb. I got angry because you defended a mad idea despite the lack of any kind of evidence and ignored all the logical things Dias told you. Let’s see an example of your noble civil discussion: “You’re trying to look like a smarty pants but frankly, I think you are just full of shit.” Anyway I don’t have time for another Shasta, have fun trollin’ nigga. Peace out
Not like - love. .
There’s no need to get angry darling. It really has… Nothing to do with you.
Oh come on now Mastershot :rolleyes: . There’s better examples you could have used then that that. Silly. And by the way HE WAS BEING A SMARTY PANTS.
And it’s you who is trolling me… Shhhh, go away. You are yet to post anything of real value on this thread. Lack of evidence? Evidence was what our entire conversation was about you monkey. If you learnt to read you would know where both myself and dias got our information and sources from. It was more about how valid it was. I’m not going to explain again, just go back and read down from my original post before running your mouth on here. I mean really, you couldn’t have picked something more irrelevant to quote me on. I do hope you read more then that.
Mike Dussault was a programmer at Valve who left. That is absolutely true & anybody could have told you that because there was an article on LambdaGeneration about it back in July. Everything else, from him being a freelance artist artist to the resume he found is completely unverifyable & easily made up. You keep claiming that knowing about him leaving valve is some form of proof when it’s not. There is no contradiction.
Chet said that if you went into the original Half Life source code now, you’d probably find mention of unrelated stuff labelled ‘HL3’. Those were his exact words. I looked through the HL SDK & found no traces of anything that used HL3 other than a numbered save file in my game folder. I also said that his reply was quite strange because he wasn’t asked about HL3, he was asked about the DOTA2 leak with the ep3 files & no trace or mention of HL3.
You said that since it’s taken more than 4 years since EP2 to make EP3 that they’ve left EP3 & the episodic model & moved on to HL3 as a full-length game. My point was that development time has absolutely nothing to do with the length of a game & was using DNF as an example. Honestly, I’m not trying to confuse you, it was just a simple reference that I thought would be easy enough for anyone to understand, but I guess I was wrong.
It wouldn’t hurt to try. Cutting down on all of the mindless personal insults & focusing on the subject matter itself might help.
I wasn’t trying to be a “smarty pants” I just figured you knew about that article too. You were so quick to tell me to read the LambdaGen article again (& again) & to “do some research” that I thought you knew there was an article on the site from July saying that Mike D. left valve a year ago (when the post ryuuk said he left recently) so you’d know that his knowledge of when Mike D left valve was absolutely meaningless. I’m not witholding info to use against you to make me look smart, I’m giving you more credit by assuming you did the research!
Thank you for the feedback Dias. What you say does make sense. And you could well be right. I don’t mean to insult anyone. I just took offense when you shut down what I had to say straight away, saying I got my sources from, well… ahem my colon. If you knew what I was talking about why didn’t you post the link to LambdaGen yourself instead of trying to make me look like I didn’t know what I was talking about? When I read that article, there were some suggestions that there could have in fact been some truth to it after LambdaGen did some digging themselves.
I don’t insult anyone who doesn’t insult me. Let’s just agree to disagree, none of us have a clue what we are talking about except Valve anyway. So lets just be friends shall we? With my brains and your brawn, we’ll make an excellent team!
Well I wouldn’t have shot down what you said like that if you didn’t talk so condescendingly as if you had some irrefutable proof from unseen sources.
I barely know what we’re even talking about at this point to be honest.
I talked-back at you, yes. But you’re the one who called me Diass, idiot, twit & small child. All I said before that was that you pulled information out of your ass, which is a fancy way of saying you made it up on the spot. I’m not going to pretend everything’s all peachy-keen between us, but at least we can both agree that we’re done arguing over this.
Additionally, I found that if you google Mike Dussault, you’ll find his Linkedin profile which has his work experience from 1996 to the present & if you check when it was last modified it will say “08/17/2011 08:33:26” so that makes ryuuk’s post even less meaningful.
How does it make it less meaningful?
It may mean something or nothing until we really see it with ours own eyes, savvy?
Woops, disregard that. I was tired & mixed up it’s date with that of the Lambda Gen article. It doesn’t mean anything either way unless it predated the steampowered forum post. (I was very tired when I posted)