Developer quotes on release and process

[JeffMOD]

@stormseeker

We do have an 8192x8192 texture in game. It’s just split up into lots of smaller ones. I made it myself.

I would have made a 16384, but I didnt have enough RAM back then.

:what:
What model/level is this texture used in?

[xalener]

@stormseeker

We do have an 8192x8192 texture in game. It’s just split up into lots of smaller ones. I made it myself.

I would have made a 16384, but I didnt have enough RAM back then.

The old Natural Selection mod did that trick a lot, right? I mean the texture sizes weren’t that huge but they did fit lots of textures onto one.

Yeah, alright… So it’s probably on a level with a lot of repeating elements that only appear in the one level… Surface tension?

[TheDragonMask]

@Raminator

Are any of the levels “locked off” at this point in time? Gone gold you could say?

Not until they’re sitting on your hard drive.

Because quite a while ago Joel Nielsen announced the soundtrack had gone gold.

And yet several of the songs have been changed, remastered or otherwise altered since then.

Oh well, looks like even the thing’s that have “gone gold” are now WIP’s again.

[TheDragonMask]

@stormseeker

Of course, you don’t think that we would just release it with bugs still attached do you? It’s always going to be a work in progress until its released.

I appreciate you and the rest of the team’s dedication but that’s the point of “gone gold”. And also, does your statement mean the soundtrack was generating bugs? Because that’s the only thing that was confirmed to be done forever AKA “gold”.

[CygNuS]

Fully agree with TheDragonMask on this one.
There is no point in saying something soundtrack has gone gold unless it’s defenitely NOT getting changed anymore.

Joel Nielsen ‘soundtrack gone gold’ - comment apperently didn’t mean squat.

Or perhaps Joel didn’t fully realize at that time that the implementation of the ‘gold’ soundtrack would cause necessary changes to be done.

I’m thinking the latter.

[Jethrosoup]

It’s pretty clearly the latter. I’m assuming in a mod of this scope that happens fairly often.

[danielsangeo]

I think that the soundtrack going “gold” means that, as long as development is still ongoing, if something needs to change in the soundtrack, it can be updated, but once the mod is completed, the soundtrack is locked into place as well.

But if they need a song that lasts 2 minutes, 53 seconds and the song was only 2 minutes 48 seconds, 5 additional seconds must be added to the song. Alternatively, if they need a specific “feel” that has changed, then the song must change. But, as it stands, the soundtrack is ready to go live whenever the mod is complete (they don’t have to wait for the soundtrack to put the mod on the release schedule).

[bur]

why put so much thought into this craaaaap

[CygNuS]

We got it, Joel’s “going gold” is nothing like the actual definition of “going gold”.
Don’t blame us for misunderstanding “100 % done” for “100 % done but not actually”

In the future, please do stick to the actual definitions of the words “complete” and “release” once you say the mod is complete or ready for release

[xalener]

@stormseeker

Of course, you don’t think that we would just release it with bugs still attached do you? It’s always going to be a work in progress until its released.

Crytek/ Bethesda fans don’t seem to mind.

But I guess that’s what puts you guys above them… christ I can’t believe I said that. Why did I doing this?

[TheDragonMask]

@Raminator

@Dias

I thought they were going to release the soundtrack a week or so before release? Unless that idea was dropped some time ago, and I didn’t hear about it.

It was never an actual fact, it was just a bit of baseless speculation that somehow became popular “knowledge”. A bit like most religions.

I found this on the 33rd page of the Got a Question thread. Thought it might be interesting for some, considering the things we thought were set in stone are now melting away. (I’m on an insane quest to read all of that thread, as you can see I’m only around 3.7% and I’ve been at it on and off for a week)

This is another interesting one. I’m not sure but DK 2009/10/11 still hasn’t released right?

@Paul Peloski

@Deathmonkey7

I thought the 2009/10 engines were unusable to mods, or are we speaking of future revisions? Or have they been fixed?

Currently there is no SDK for the 2009/2010 but I would expect that to change pretty soon. If Valve delays the SDK for too long we’ll obviously release on the old engine, but I think it’s pretty likely we’ll be able to release on the new engine.

[Solokiller]

It’s been stated several times that the soundtrack thing is just a rumor, just stop getting all worked up over it.

[ShadowNate]

@TheDragonMask

I found this on the 33rd page of the Got a Question thread. Thought it might be interesting for some, considering the things we thought were set in stone are now melting away.

However, the point of this thread is to organise dev quotes related to the release, and you should definately check the original post in this thread. It links to far more updated quotes like e.g.

@Raminator

The soundtrack will be released two weeks before the mod. Just because the soundtrack is finalised doesn’t mean it is going to be available for download yet, which is what I already said:You’re reading into it too much.

[TheDragonMask]

@ShadowNate

However, the point of this thread is to organise dev quotes related to the release, and you should definately check the original post in this thread. It links to far more updated quotes like e.g.

Sorry, I wasn’t aware whether the first page was linking to the rumor, or a later confirming of the rumor by Raminator. And I agree my post wasn’t crucial or very intersting news, I’ve just been trying to liven up this place recently. (I think I’ve revived around 2-3 threads by now)

[defenestrationist]

@TheDragonMask

(I think I’ve revived around 2-3 threads by now)

For the love of god, stop.

[TheDragonMask]

@defenestrationist

For the love of god, stop.

I’m just trying to get this forum to be less empty. It seems like their are so many bitter loners/cynics around. :brow:

[Kerberos]

@TrantaLocked

The best thing one can do is stop visiting the forums frequently and live life to the fullest. I check back on forums every couple weeks for Black Mesa to see what is going on. After that I remember it will be awesome when it comes out, and the time will go by faster.

Same here it really takes the pressure off. :freeman:

@TheDragonMask

I’m just trying to get this forum to be less empty. It seems like their are so many bitter loners/cynics around. :brow:

I don’t see anything bad on the low population rate here. Better to have only some trolls than a whole army of em.

[TheDragonMask]

@Katana

I gotta be honest - a lot of the media blackout is because of the intense desire for release. I only speak for myself and I think this makes sense, but we were pretty disappointed in ourselves for not making the 2009 release predicted in the trailer, and at least for myself, that level of hype just stresses myself out, and since Black Mesa isn’t my job, it makes development less fun. Since I don’t get paid for it, I’m not going to put time into development if it’s not fun.

As a result, we no longer say anything because - at least on my part - I want people to forget about the mod’s existence for a little while, enjoy everything else life has to offer, and then be pleasantly surprised when we suddenly say out of nowhere “All right, we’re ready!”
Simultaneously, we don’t want to put out something subpar just because we demanded a certain release date of ourselves.

Katana, one of the choreographers if I’m not mistaken, has been posting a lot in the “Ask the developers” thread.

[CygNuS]

@Raminator

He had just about wrapped up several years worth of work. I think you can forgive him for being excited about it.

“Soundtrack gone gold” was a quite dubious statement. I think you can forgive us for being excited/confused about it.

My suggestion “to please stick to the actual definition of words in the future” was not an attack to Joel, it was simply a reaction to stormseeker saying we sounded like a bunch of conspiracy theorists about this (while it shouldn’t be surprising we would, you’d start acting like one)

[bur]

bottom line is: who the fuck cares? it doesnt make any difference at all to anyone but thoes who actually have access to it somehow