Deus Ex

I beat DE again… tried to go back and play through the endings using a quicksave I made JUST before blowing the reactor. THe entire thing crashed. Oh well. When I feel like it I will play it again. For now, I will relive the fun moments I had with other games like Iron Storm and MoH Breakthrough. Good times.

That’s exactly right. But don’t play it right after the first game, or its flaws will stick out way more. It needs its space.

Not really. It says JC merged with Helios just the way it happened in one ending (and unless you played the first game you’d have no idea what that meant) but decided to blow up Area 51 anyway once he got out.

What I can tell so far, the game seems like it was made for consoles & a PC version was an afterthought. No matter what I try, the controls are terrible & a few of the menus can’t be navigated by mouse. Some of the plot is explained through loading screens. The jumping is weird & floaty like halo. Also; Alex Denton looks like a guido.

I never actually beat Invisible War. It was an unoptimized piece of shit that got boring by the time you got to Cairo or wherever you go after the Mako factory, if not before then.

Dias, I am sorry you didn’t enjoy playing Deus Ex. You should return to your regularly scheduled life instead of playing Invisible War.

Invisible War isn’t a shit game just compared to the first Deus Ex. It is a shit game of its own merit. Where the first game was great because it gave you choice and rewarded you for the decisions you made, the second game gave you poor choices that didn’t make sense and punished you at every turn. The poor selection of choices were bad enough, but when you get punished for thinking outside the box and trying to find new and unique ways to complete objectives? Where you get punished just for clicking an option in a dialogue tree? That is shit design.

And the game is hardly more open than the Half Life series. It claimed to have open level design, but fuck-it if that is open that my name is Latimore (and it isn’t). It was one of the most closed in pieces of shit ever…

The thing is, I did enjoy Deus Ex. The problem is that there always parts I loved, but they never seemed to last long or were unnecessarily bogged down with things I hated. That’s why I always seemed so mad at it. All the praise I heard about it made me think it was a great game, but as I was playing, there was either bugs (not to mention my rendering problem) or unnecessarily difficult, easy or just plain annoying things that seemed to weigh it down. I’m upset because it felt like wasted potential.

I really don’t have a regularly scheduled life. :frowning:

Doesn’t that kind of merge two of the endings? I thought the point of the original Helios ending was that JC/Helios was supposed to use the internet to restore order to the worlds, whereas blowing up Area 51 was just supposed to cause a second dark age. So I always thought they were connected. Oh well, I’d rather not dwell on how IW managed to cock up its only direct connection to the previous game.

I suppose that if JC merged with Helios, and blew-up Area 51 but survived the explosion, because he does appear in Invisible War. I’m not sure if they say how or when he blows it up, but having Helios/Denton survive it makes quite a difference.

Of course, since the whole point of that ending (the ‘blowing everything up’ ending) in the original game was that neither JC, nor Helios, nor the evil guy (yeah, I forgot his name) were supposed to survive. The fact that JC/Helios did, but without the internet, kind of borks DE’s entire point; that is, that you have to make a choice.

Bob Page.

Sounds like an incredibly original name. . .

Would you prefer Marcellium Binglehelm?

nahh it should be benny, oh wait

Take your best shot, flatlander woman.

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“sticks and stones may break my bones but words will make me self distruct :/”

I’d actually completely forgotten about the killphrases. I’d always killed Anna in the 747 and Gunther in Paris.

How do you kill Gunther in Paris?

You shoot at him repeatedly?

If you followed a specific plot path, you got given a ‘kill phrase’ by the doctor at UNATCO (again, I forget his name). I believe to get there you had to convince him to stay at UNATCO, whereupon he would leave once getting the kill phrase for you. He would then meet up with you in Paris and give it to you, where you could use it on Gunther.

Or just shoot him in the face with a GEP gun.

You don’t even need to kill Gunther. If you run away from him you can lose him in the castle and finish the game without even talking to him in Paris.

Wait, I thought he appeared in that church place, which is outside of Paris.

He did. My mistake. I’ve not played that part in a long time.

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