Crouch-jump: all about it!

I laughed A LOT watching this video. The guy raging is very funny.

Seriously guys, why the hell is so difficult to press two buttons at same time??

Amazing Grace! I love this game mechanic, i have play a lot of Deathmach and i got used to it, so i did not have problems with it.

If you want to know, I don´t think that pressing two buttons is really hard. But in the game this is merely explained, so it´s extremely easy to miss. And the normal jump is useless. I guess that poor bastard didn´t read the ctrl+space tip.
Without editing skill.cfg is very trial and error to jump. I have retarded hands, so that was hell for me. I´m better at tactics than at jumping.

I did increase the jump height in the skill .cfg, but only because it felt nicer. Making jumps was never an issue with the vanilla BM settings. Hell, they were even kinda necessary for making more precise and accurate jumps. I notice when I ramped it up to HL2 style jumping, I overshot a LOT.

Gordon cannot jump because he’s a theoretical physicist who eats too many ‘Particle Accelerators’. He’s a lazy unfit guy. :smiley:

It isn’t difficult, but I don’t see the point in it. I always viewed crouch jumping as a way to get into vents or other narrow spaces back when I played HL1. If 95% of the jumps require a crouch jump, it is more convenient for the player to simply increase the normal jump height so that crouch jumping is used for the more difficult-to-reach platforms or areas.

Just because something is easy to do or trivial doesn’t excuse its presence if it is a needless complication to begin with.

Also, it has been 4 years since I last played through the HL1 games so time may have clouded my memory, but I don’t remember them requiring as many crouch jumps as BM does.

Although I am more than capable of doing it manually, and very well I may add, and used to this style for over a decade, to some players it is another thing to think about that isn’t natural, and really not needed, the question is, is there any occasion during the mod where a normal jump is preferable than a duck jump? if no, then it should be removed, its a pointless feature and all jumps should be duck jumps (imo ofc). Once multiplayer hits I’ll use a script 100% of the time, just because i have another key bound to a weapon, and not duck (I don’t really need to duck with a duck jump script as i can just hold key, and land in a crouched position into the area I need to be).

I cracked up so hard watching this. He was so close at the end too when he started crouching and jumping, just in the wrong order!

Blows my mind that people can’t figure it out or complain about crouchjumping being in the game. Don’t get me started on the fact that some people can’t even figure it out for themselves, but also it is a standard HL jump which is incredibly easy to do, how can something so simple cause you frustration to the point that you want the developers to remove it? Just learn the jump, then use it. What’s the big problem? Too lazy to press 2 buttons?

I crouchjump everywhere, including when I’m jumping in places when it’s not needed. Just a habit from playing the HL series and all of its mods over the years. It’s basically second nature to me. And even though it may not be second nature to other players, that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have to learn/use it.

For all of you who don’t get crouch jumping…

Try jumping irl without bending your knees :wink:

Like I said above, just because something is easy to do or trivial doesn’t excuse its presence if it is a needless complication to begin with.

To those complaining about the need to crouch-jump at all - did you ever even play the original game? Like at all? I mean I’ll admit that Black Mesa’s jumping is pretty poor, but crouch-jumping has been part of pretty much every source game.

I think the problem is, is that it’s simply not needed, every jump should be a duckjump, it is easy enough to do, and not really an issue after a few mins, but it’s just a useless feature, or more accurately , the jump is a useless feature, duck jump is very handy

i think a lot of people defending crouch jump are missing the point. it’s not that it’s too hard - it’s just pointless.

what are the advantages of pressing 2 buttons for normal jump instead of one? should you need to use 2 buttons to run, or fire your weapon? should we press 2 buttons to crouch, or 2 buttons to turn on the flashlight?

crouch jump is literally used for every jump in the game, i honestly don’t remember it being used this much in earlier HL games.

I dont understand why so many people are having trouble with this concept… in most games ive played Crouch jumping has helped in reaching normally unreachable areas. Think about how how you jump normally in real life. With a sprinting start and tucking your knees in mid air it would only make sense that you would be able to reach farther away areas. Plus how much effort does it really take to just press ctrl after you jump? It really isnt as big of an issue as many of you are making it

For me:
Regular jump - Bunny hopping
Duck jump - Getting on top of things

It’s natural for me, but I can definitely understand why those who aren’t cultured gamers find it difficult, when I was 12 the duck jump was difficult (Mostly due to my co-ordination physical disorder), so I can certainly understand why some people might find it difficult.

Yes, first in 1998 and then several more runthroughs in the following 10 years.

And just to correct you here; people don’t want the crouch jump to be removed altogether, the suggestion is to increase the height of the normal jump such that you only need to crouch jump for the particularly high platforms / narrow spaces. Well it is MY suggestion at least, I shouldn’t speak for other people.

lol that guy having issues jumping obviously wasnt paying attention when the game TELLS YOU how to crouch jump in the beginning. Instead he just yells at his computer like an angry 4 year old

Nope, he is just an asshole. Or maybe that headcrab sucked this information from his short-term memory, just before transferring to long-term memory

His previous video (3m1s):
https://youtu.be/-jST8sJpRog?t=3m1s
“What the hell is a crouch jump?”

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Watch that playthrough, there are a lot more laughs to be had. I’m at pt17 and wondering when the guy will figure out that he can destroy the turrets.

A retard like him should not be doing game play throughs… Unless he is intentionally being stupid to get Lols

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