Combine vs Covenant

From the magical Land of Fanboism.

The fact that the Combine consist of animals with machine guns duct-taped onto their heads and cold-war era Soviet paratrooper rejects doesn’t do much to make them technologically advanced.

FFFUUUUUUUU :fffuuu:

Been to the citadel recently?
Seen any hunters recently?
Seen any Striders recently?
Seen any gunships recently?

I mean, the last three are synths. They’re sort of half organic, striders even have a brain. That’s quite a technological feat if you ask me. And then there’s the fact that they can create portals to other dimensions etc.

YOU forgot to metion the convenants technology is stolen

qouted from wiki

“Technologically, the Covenant are described in Halo: The Flood and First Strike to be imitative rather than innovative—most of the Covenant’s sophisticated weaponry and propulsion systems are based on Forerunner artifacts, rather than the Covenant’s own research. Covenant weapons are generally based on Forerunner technology and utilize plasma.”

seriously have you played halo and looked at nothing more then the shiney graphics?

who would you be more afraid of, interglatic pirates/gypsys (The Covenant), or an highly intellegent and heaviley armed alien speices (The Combine)?

I’m sure the combine didn’t see humanity as much of a threat so they moved only a small part of their army onto earth.

We have yet to see the whole combine empire pissed of.

I do agree with you.
Combine win. When the Combine won the 7 hour war, they shouldn’t used their, ah, “real elite soldiers”.
If they were chasing down Nihilant’s forces, the first soldiers could be part of an investigation team (only to find xenians, and they are not special soldiers)
During the war, the Combine may have used slave warriors from another planets, not their real forces.

Everything related to the Combine technology in HL universe does not presents the real strengh of the Combine Empire.

There’s a question: you have an army of soldiers and slaves. If you are planning to invade something, who would you send first?
If the 7 hour war doesn’t last 7 hours, a small part of the Combine’s real forces would appear to solve the problem.

I’ve heard it flew around every now and then in this thread, and I just want to say right now: Freeman never ‘defeated’ the Combine. He cut off their acces but they are far from dead.

Also: The Combine didn’t really expect Freeman so his accomplishment isn’t as great as everybody thinks (it’s still great though, just less). The Covenant most likely knew about Master Chief but they still got their ass kicked hard by him. This makes the Covenant a cupcake for the Combine.

Also: The Combine took 7 hours before almost completely taking over this planet. The Covenant took about 15/20 years. The Covenant would be destroyed in every single possible way.

Because he is a geneticly enhanced supersoldier with the best armor and technology available, whose only purpose is to fight the alien invaders :wink:

Time for some debunking :smiley:

There is a difference from defeating a single, 21st century planet and a galactic empire half a century in the future. Of course the covenant would have a harder time.

As I’ve said before, my arguments are based off of what you see in the games. From what I’ve seen, the Covenant would just glass the Combine. If you don’t follow that, then ignore me if you wish. But this way is the most unbiased and fair comparison.

Are you saying that their stolen technology is low-tech? I never denied that it was stolen, I just said that it was advanced.

The Citadel is just a big building. The Covenant have a flying city. What do you think is more impressive?

As I said before, the synths are glorified creatures with laser beams coming out of their heads.

The Covenant use portals (and even the humans, to some extent), so I don’t see your logic there.

Awaiting Flames . . .

say the covenant and the combine went to war, because the cov’s tech is stolen they dont know how it works, the key to war is my sticks bigger then your stick, so they build a weapon and you build one back to combat it, like world war 2, with the tanks, machine guns and finally the h bomb, the cov go this is our arsenal, the combine say right ok well build this defense and this weapon to combat it, the covs response? omg we have nothing left to steal we cant fight back

just bring on the forerunners, the only real competition for the combine in the halo universe

Oh right, you just reminded me of something.

This argument is redundant, because even if the Covenant began to lose, they could just grab a human (proven not to be hard at all) and completely wipe out all intelligent life. No one could win.

say what??

Oh wow, I’m out of it today. I forgot to mention the whole Halo array part. Guess it slipped my mind.

The Halo Rings. They wipe out all intelligent life.

From what I’ve seen of the Combine, the Covenant has better technology. Also, the Covenant reduced the enitre human population, which was spread out over numerous colony planets and had advance technology, to 300 million in 32 years.

The Combine took over one comparativly primitive planet in 7 hours.

i seem to remeber master chief and the marines destoryed that, so the combine shouldnt have much the same trouble (And if there was another the Combine wouldnt just destroy it they’d go to Halo for a holiday) and the covenant, wouldnt be able to reconstruct it because its not there tech, again its the forerunners…

i swear the halo universe any unanswered question or anything truely awesome the answer and reason is always the forerunners, who left that log in the toilet? forerunners

That? There are seven Halo rings.

Also, one word as far as tech for the Covenant, and all these people saying they “can’t understand it”.

Engineers.

Also, the fact still stands that the Covenant fought a much tougher enemy and wiped out almost all their planets save one.

All the combine’s men/ soldiers are stolen.

the combine overwatch/civil protection are “techincally” stolen but more abducted or voluntered, there tech however is there own

and because the covenant conviently “found” the halo array, doesnt mean them using it or planning to, makes them any more deadly, just that they are lucky

ask yourself this, would the covenant be any sort of a threat if the forerunners didnt exsist?

“imitative rather than innovative”

The Covenant exist because of a religion that WORSHIPS the forerunner… so no…
But that’s not really fair.

That’s like saying “Would you even EXIST had your mother never fucked your father?”

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