AZ Democrat Senator shot in Tuscon

That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t investigate violent people. By all means, do that. However, being a member of a group, by itself, is not a reason to deny a person their rights, regardless of how well-founded a belief about the group is.

Profiling is profoundly un-American; you’re innocent until proven guilty.

^thats what i was getting at

Backin’ you up, duder. :slight_smile:

Guns are fun(s?) Garth. No matter what you are sayin.

Instruments designed to hurt, kill, mutilate and destroy are something that makes you happy.

Uh huh.

Edit: Also, your sig, was it designed to kill epileptics? Just askin.

yeah I know, I was backing you up too, incrementally

Garth: no, my point that you are using a logical fallacy still stands. Go google it if you don’t understand. You’re trying to deny a group of people the right to protect themselves because a minuscule fraction of them can have violent tendencies. Wiki has a wonderful example about security cameras and what not.

Also, I can tell you know absolutely nothing of the disorder or you wouldn’t be making such sweeping generalizations. When I have episodes they usually involve me by myself, flipping shit, away from everyone else. The very last thing I want is to see another human being. If someone approaches me and tries to touch or talk to me I go comatose and stop responding. Schizophrenia and the related disorders are extremely inwardly focused. When you’re terrified that some immaterial, non-existent force is going to lock you up the last thing on your mind is giving them reasons to. It’s such an over-whelming, crushing feeling that the only thing you can do is close your eyes and wait for it to pass.

Violent felons cannot own guns (I’m not sure if this is a federal or state law, but I know it’s an extremely common practice). It makes more sense to deny someone the ability to own a gun AFTER they’ve proven themselves to be violent.

Anybody can have violent tendencies. Why just ban schizophrenics from having guns? If you’re so worried about it, why not ban everybody from having guns, if you think that’s going to fix the problem. (which it won’t).

If someone really wants to hurt or kill another human being, they’re going to find a way.

Your argument is bad and you should feel bad.

Let’s just cut to the point here. Niggers shouldn’t be presidents, only bad stuff happens to the country. Look at every country in Africa!

I’m absolutely disgusted that the country I love is being run by a cotton-hoarding slave. I can’t believe white folks stick up for him. I want all of his supporters dead. I’m seriously considering leaving the States and move to a country with a proper government and isn’t run by a foreign fool. I heard Belgium’s pretty cool.

Yea, Belgium hasn’t had a government in like 200+ days!

People in politics and basically everywhere else have no more respect and appreciation for enemies and dissidents. In a dictatorship that is the status quo. In “Democracies” that is a dooming sign, for this respect is an underlying principle of democracy. For when you have no respect for the other side, you can not maintain a moral basis or legitimiation for the existence of for your own action, for all you want is unabridged power. History teaches us that such societies end badly.

Palin’s worldview and the treatment of her enemies is what makes her the archetype of a very very bad politician. If she ever gets elected into the Oval Office I will start building a bomb shelter.

“Do good to your friends to keep them, to your enemies to win them.”

Benjamin Franklin

“The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend.”

Abraham Lincoln

“Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names”

John Fitzgerald Kennedy

“But I say love your enemies” --Matthew 5:44

I am fine with differing opinions. I’m willing to talk it out. But too many…aren’t. “You’re stupid for being conservative.” “You love terrorists because you’re liberal.”

I wish I knew how to stop this. Or at least try to break through this.

“There was nothing really as glorious as a good beer shit–I mean after drinking twenty or twenty-five beers the night before. The odor of a beer shit like that spread all around and stayed for a good hour-and-a-half. It made you realize that you were really alive.” - Charles Bukowski

Uh… wait, are we not just throwing out quotes we like?

Danielsangeo: yeah, i hate it too, but I’m just as guilty of it as everyone else. It’s a habit, to simply lump everybody you disagree with into a category you hate. It’s really an ignorant way to do business and I try to limit it as much as I can.

Yeah you are right Nietzsche all quotes are random. I was hoping to show there is something like respect of the enemy among great leaders.

Something else: The senatoress was in favour of publicly available weapons, and got shot in the head by a commoner’s handgun. AM I wrong or is that ironic?

Benjamin Franklin.

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Thanks.

That didn’t really work out that well now, did it? Honestly, can we look at who speaks a quote before we quote it. Half of them are just plain hypocritical.

Well actually, we pretty much forced the south to rejoin the united states, which kinda makes them our friend in a way if they’re part of us. lol

Please specifiy as to how “that didn’t really work out”.
I know who started the Civil War. If you are thinking about the Lincoln Assassination … he had hardly time to talk to J. W. Booth. Orwhatareyoutalkingabout?

I’m just saying he went to war in the first place.

Err, actually, no. It began with the Confederate attack on Fort Sumter.

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