Yeah, I agree on this point. It was oversimplified. Case in point, Jake Sully’s avatar giving us a monologue about everything that is happening despite the fact that anybody with a brain could already see what was happening AND predict it.
Again, ftr I liked the movie.
mattemuse, it wasn’t dumbed down to appeal to adolescents, it was dumbed down to appeal to a wider audience in general. Most movie-goers prefer movies with simple plots and impressive visuals.
Well, I haven’t seen it, but that’s what I can conclude from the trailer and from other people’s reactions.
He narrated it because it was him recording on the video log that he was assigned to do and what you see many times throughout the movie.
I’m a teenager, and I will admit, the story was not all that engaging. James Cameron is not the best writer, he is a director and a producer, and an excellent one at that. However, I still stand by the movie for its visuals and the way it portrayed the natives. Their behavior, their speech, and their culture was very in-depth, well researched and had an excellent foundation among the cultures you see in the world today. It had a little bit of the Apache and other native american cultures, but also a fairly large chunk of attributes associated with original african tribes.
The plot wasn’t what I liked about the movie, it was more what the movie had right up in your face. I mean, seriously, they used sigourney weaver, you can’t get a very good plot with that old hag.
That is a device to allow him to narrate it. Him doing a video log is in no way integral to the story. This means it is still unnecessary because again, you can figure all of this out without him talking about it. Just for clarification I was talking about the things he thinks in his avatar form, I do not think those are part of his video logs but even if they are I stand by my previous statement.
They were his video logs. The whole story was supposed to be him looking back and remembering everything, that is shown in the first few minutes. I do agree, it was a narrative device, albeit an unnecessary one. It did however tells us a little bit more about what was going on with Jake during this time. This way you got to see what went on inside his head rather than just what was going on around him.
I saw the movie and it’s pretty stupid IMO, the humans actually left the planet at the end because they got scared of a bunch of natives with bows and arrows? If the story is realistic in any way, they are just going back to get reinforcements and nukes.
And why do the natives accept the fact that the avatars are just puppets remote controlled by humans, they should be either confused or pissed off at that kind of messing with nature…
Pretty much agree with sersoft. Who knew that mercs in the future would be using helicopters windows that could be penetrated by arrow shots?
The plot was predictable and oftentimes, stupid. But the visuals were enough to make me want to see it again.
Ever heard the term “movie realism”? The movie wasn’t supposed to be believable, just fun. Get over that damn “Oh its not realistic” shit. It’s a movie, at least try to enjoy it without being a nitpick. Jesus christ.
The movie is supposed to suspend disbelief. Obviously it failed to do that for sersoft, ergo it is not a good movie for sersoft.
People of today are so cynical and jaded. Can’t ya just enjoy the flippin movie?
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But still, i really wanna see this in 3D.
I will see no movie with faggot elves in it.
What if they’re just furries instead of faggots (humans and elves having sex, oh me oh my!)?
… movie frickin’ sucked.
Yeah I dunno I like other movies that are also unrealistic.
Like 2012 for example, I liked that movie.
They left because the had no more military resources left, the huge gunship [Papa Dragon] was destroyed, one of the shuttles were destroyed. Of which there were only two, one was still attached to the ship in orbit. They need that shuttle to get back to the ship and go back to Earth. So it makes sense for them to leave.
And who knows, J.Cameron said if the movie is a success [which is obvious that it is], he was going to make two more movies. Of which will either involve the other moons you see in the sky scape in the movie, or a continuation of Pandora. So maybe they will come back with more weaponry, don’t be so quick to judge.
Because those humans fought for the Na’vi and their survival. If someone fought for my life, human or not, it’s obviously someone I can trust. And they understand just fine why they manufactured the hybrids, because it was easier for diplomacy and easier to navigate Pandora since the atmosphere couldn’t sustain normal human breathing. It also shows they accept who they are and want to get to know their life style.
And on a note about the relation the Na’vi had to African American tribes and the Indian tribes here. They were portrayed and designed like that to simply make it easier on the viewer to understand their ways, meanings, and beliefs. You expect way to much, it’s not the easiest to create a fully new way of life since there are so many today. He made the language himself, and had the crew create four hundred different Na’vi beings along with tribal and corresponding human names.
I more got the impression that they weren’t so much fighting for them as trying to convince them to step aside and stop killing humans. It wasn’t really until Jake showed up that the Avatars really started fighting for their survival.
Did anyone else find it odd how readily they accepted Jake into the tribe? I mean, he flat out admits that he’s a “warrior,” and what do they do? They train him in their fighting tactics, they introduce him to their sacred grounds, they pretty much give him a map that says “bomb here.”
It’d be like if America had taken a Russian Spetznaz and trained him in their fighting doctrines, technology, and also given him a walking tour of the Pentagon, during the Cold War. It didn’t make much sense to me.
That’s exactly what I mean.
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